Eric,

I am sorry you have to come to these decisions. But since I cannot see it
from your perspective I am confident you will make the proper choice for
all. I originally got on the list when I first started my journey with CSS
and at that time there were not many resources available. Now with the
proliferation of the Web it is not difficult to find alternatives. One of
the reasons I joined was to have peer discussions with you and other
notable experts in the field. To my surprise it was not that and the amount
of your participation in this group was not what I expected. Regardless, I
vote for the first option. If this group was active such as Sitepoint
forums where one can seek direct assistance it would be worth it to have
access to specialized peers. In contrast to Sitepoint and other CSS forums
this mailing list had the potential to be something "special" and
"personal". Unfortunately, from my observance and lack of participation,
the mailing list has not evolved into something great. I support you in
whatever decision you make. Thanks for all your efforts.

-Shaf

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Eric A. Meyer <e...@meyerweb.com> wrote:

> Hi, everyone,
>
>    So apparently the list software died back in October, and none of us
> really noticed until this month.  Or, if people noticed, nobody mentioned
> it until this month.  It took a while to get in touch with someone who
> could get the software restarted, but I'm told it's back up.  If you're
> reading this, then yes, it's back up.
>    This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about the
> utility of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue.  There are a lot
> of other venues for discussing CSS these days, and most of the reason for
> this list existing-- to help people figure out how CSS worked, and fix
> problems-- is covered much more compellingly by sites like StackOverflow.
> The resources that used to support css-d, like the public archive and the
> wiki, have fallen into disuse or disrepair over the years.  In general,
> there's a faded feeling here, at least for me.
>    Thus, I'm now pondering three courses of action:
>
>    1. Shut down the list.  To all good things, etc.  This obviously
> abandons those who still prize having a mailing list, but that number seems
> very small.  Almost all the discussion in the months leading up to the
> hiatus was conducted between a small number of subscribers.  Of course, a
> new list could be started by someone else.
>    2. Hand the list off to someone else, to guide as they see fit.  This
> involves the very difficult task of finding someone who's interested, and
> making a good choice.  This is the least appealing of the three, honestly,
> because of the possibility of getting things wrong.
>    3. Convert the list from "Practical discussions of CSS and its use" to
> more general discussion about anything CSS-related.  That would include
> theoretical musings, discussion of what CSS should or shouldn't be, where
> it should go in the future, the general theory of CSS, and so on.  I'm less
> inclined to go this route, as there are other places to grapple with the
> deeper issues of CSS (like www-style, not to mention blogs and social
> media).
>
> At this point, perhaps due to pride and ego but perhaps simply due to
> feeling that the time has come, I'm leaning toward option 1.  January 24,
> 2016, will be the 14th anniversary of the list.  That leaves a month to
> either settle on a different course of action, or else to plan a shutdown.
>    If anyone has strong feelings that it should be one of the other two
> options, or a fourth option I didn't list, feel free to let me know
> off-list.  I may not be able to respond to every message, but I will read
> them all.  I expect to make a final decision on or before January 10,
> 2016.  Whatever I decide, I'll announce it here.
>
> --
> Eric A. Meyer - http://meyerweb.com/
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