Michael said : "They are _definitely_ generally better than non uni but not what I
would call "good".
I said {
         better in theory and research yes;
         met up with a guy from university in a web development environment
         and he struggle to find out how JSP work let again didnt even know ne HTML
         well my side i was thought a whole lot of practical stuff like
         HTML,Java, Applets, ASP ("oops")
         and from ASP i could relate to JSP
        and from Applets i could relate to Servlets
 
        so what do they teach at Universities
       
       public static void main(String[] args) {
         System.out.prinln("i will geuss");
       }
 
      // probs the apps that run in a DOS window
     // or do they teach AWT and SWING stuff
   
    so please tell me that
         
        } 
michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

IMO, passing comsci at University level is not a necessary nor a
sufficient condition for making one a good programmer.

I can remember at Uni (I went to Natal-Durban), I used to cringe when
we were assigned group work, because I knew that most of the work would
be done by a few because the rest just wouldn't be up to the task.

The has been borne out in recent years of working with Uni graduates.
They are _definitely_ generally better than non uni but not what I
would call "good".



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