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"Howard R. Davis III" wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> nurev wrote:
> >
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > Ah, here is the crux of the problem. This person, and
> > and capitalists in general would like everyone to take on
> > their belief system. Individualism, individual rights, and
> > the ever so lovely PROPERTY IS PRIOR TO LAW. These twisted
> > apostles of greed and arrogant stupidity are just simply
> > selfish bastards inventing justifications for their sorry
> > assed selves.
> >
> > Who in their right mind would claim that " property is prior
> > to law?" Not only isn't this factual in all of human evolution,
> > but it's a pathetic indication of a warped and sick personality.
> >
>
> Long before governments and law existed men and women gathered or killed
> food to eat. Was this food not their property?
No. It was food.
They created tools which
> made their efforts more efficient. Were these tools not the property of
> their creators?
No. They were possessions.
Later they planted and cared for certain plants which
> they found they preferred over others. Were these not then their
> property? It was in order to protect these properties from those who
> simply stole these creations from their creators that the banding
> together of people originated.
What is this mish-mash?
People (?) banded together for warmth and mutual protection even
before
they were people.
What you are describing above is the A.O.P.L. the Association Of
Paranoid
Landlords.
This was the origin of government and
> law. And, in fact, it seems that early written records indicate that law
> preceded government. At least that seems to me to be what is indicated
> by the early books of the bible.
Yeah, there is a good source for historical reference.
>
> Howard Davis
Property is a legal invention. Like the corporation. It came into
existence
to legitimize and institutionalize the holdings of the rich.
Property is an agreed upon fiction. Especially when it is in the form
of land.
How can you own something that was here before you and will be here
after you.
It is the state that insures ownership. If there is no state, then you
need
to command force to protect your property.
Property rights are flimsy at best. Human rights and property rights
often
come into conflict where the property owners userp the power of State.
Then
comes revolution and property is redistributed or redefined.
Funny how Libertarians and Conservatives and capitalists in general
see these
legal inventions as natural rights. There is nothing natural about
lawyer
reality. It's always just a temporary condition.
Joshua2
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