-Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 10/22/99 5:47:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> If the earthly physical plane (in the overall) is a "hologram" of
>  energy/mass, and energy is "free" to those who know HOW to "evoke" it from
>  the quantum Akasha --whose own biological FORMS would be only "holograms"
of
>  similar construction, of which they'd presumably be in greater CONTROL--
> then
>  the "objective" world of our senses is at bottom only a SUB-set of a less
>  "fixed," more "dream-like" SUBJECTIVE reality.  In such a reality,
>  "magicians" would create *illusions* in which "scientists," viewing things
> as
>  determinants rather than products, would in effect find themselves to be
>  prisoners --
>  and would therefore convince "rational"-minded human beings to function
>  mechanically, like automatons, in a Simulacrum (a limited, imperfect
>  SIMULATION of Reality) which actually EXCLUDES those very very qualities of
>  human mind and will --freedom of thought to imagine new vistas of the
>  "possible" and freedom of action to (sometimes) do the "impossible"-- which
>  could enable human beings to MASTER this "illusion" ...
>
>  Which may be what some "Gnostics" (not the life-HATING ones) have been
>  telling us, from long before Plato, to Philip K. Dick and "The Matrix"
TODAY
>  ...  Who says that the "shaman's" realm is any less "orderly" than the
"laws"
>
>  of SCIENCE's idea of 'Nature'?
>

Well, well, I just love it when you philosophise!  My take on this thing is
to point out a couple of things for discussion.  First there is an inordinate
mentioning of MEASURING in the Bible, is there not?  This could be more
occultic hidden language as well.  In line with the view that "rational"
scientists are the ones that are imposing their idea of the "orderliness" of
"objective" reality on the rest is the fact that ALL things are supposed to
answer to the LAW as it is stated.  There are anomolies though, especially in
quantum mechanics.  Wouldn't it be interesting IF the scientists are so
trapped in their mindset of their own subjective view of reality being
OBJECTIVELY true that through their force of will we are being made to accept
it as our own view of reality as well.  In this sense scientists would be
like a bunch of arch-mages controlling the world.  In reality I believe it is
more the product of incomplete thought that results in the "accepted" view of
reality.  People fail to pay attention and notice the anomolies (like NEO's
character in The Matrix DID NOTICE with the black cat repeating it's actions)
that would enable them to step from the mold.  Additionally reality as we
percieve it to be must be a construct of a huge amount of thought energy
which I don't think is sustainable by such a comparatively small group of
people against the potentially universe shattering force of 5+ other billion
people (unless of course those "other" people are constructs of the "false
reality").  Forgive me I am getting far afield.  To put it in a nutshell it
is my belief that People as a collective mental entity "create" and sustain
the "Illusory, OBjective Reality", and the "laws" of science are the
framework that has been adopted for which the illusion must follow.  Strong
minds or those who are able to get "outside" of this powerful force of will
can cause anomolies and make things happen (which are mostly not noticed).
In REAL Reality EVERYONE has the INNATE ability to nullify the bonds which
confine him and to fly, be energy, travel instantaneously, gain knowledge
instantaneously, etc.  In practice it rarely happens because it is percieved
to be hard, and in the end not worth the effort.


effort.  
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"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human
mind to correlate all its contents.
  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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