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"Tatman, Robert" wrote:
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> -Caveat Lector-
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> I didn't say police violence was legitimate. What I am trying to do is
> identify WHY the "anarchists" were ignored by the cops on Tuesday, while the
> nonviolent demonstrators were targeted. As a matter of principle, I do not
> believe that ANY violence is legitimate. With all due respect to my Jesuit
> professors, I don't accept the principle of double effect: it is NEVER
> appropriate to use violence to stop violence. If activists use violence
> themselves, they are simply adopting the methods of the Oligarchy, and by
> doing that they have allowed themselves to be coopted. QED: if not, why do
> agents provocateurs always try to get their targets to engage in violent
> actions? We DARE not use the enemy's weapons to fight the enemy...if we do
> that, we might as well just give up and enlist in the enemy's army.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nessie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 3:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [CTRL] COINTELPRO in Seattle
> >
> > -Caveat Lector-
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> > >the legitimate nonviolent anti-WTO movement,
> >
> >
> > What makes the nonviolent anti-WTO movement "legitimate" and the violent
> > movement not? Was the Boston Tea Party not violent? Did that make it a
> > bad thing? More to the point, what makes police violence legitimate and
> > citizen violence not legitimate?
If I may join the conversation.
I too prefer non violence. But the reality of our world is such that it is
violence which scares the politicians. Not because they can't overcome it, but
because it demonstrates how far people are willing to go to oppose their rule.
Have you ever wondered why there is a Martin L. King holiday but not a Malcolm
X holiday? It was the threat of violent Black insurrection which frightened
the establishment into making Jim Crow illegal. Power is not afraid of
peaceful demonstrations. They even prefer it because it lets people let off
steam and feel that they are accomplishing something when they are not. This
is why Clinton praised the " peaceful " protesters, and admonished the violent
" anarchists."
Joshua2
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