Jason, thats nice of you, but never trust anyone fully. Especially me. I have my biases, like anyone else.
I honestly have no problem being wrong & being corrected - that's called "learning". I do get peeved at the tone, sometimes. So, Theresa, I'm not mad at you now, & I'm certainly not mad you corrected me. But the tone you used really peeved me. But that's bygones, & we know what to do with those. Have a good, cool day everyone (except for that darn Robert Citek, arrogantly up in that nice non-hellish Michigan!). Scott Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Jason Pearson <[email protected]> wrote: Scott, I always look forward to you advice and trust your word regarding technology more than anybody. Good Day, Jason On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Scott Granneman <[email protected]>wrote: > I referenced Windows in my original mail because the original article > I sent said NOTHING about Macs (or Linux, or any other OS besides > Windows). Congrats on doing more research. > > My original email was fine. It is overwhelming a Windows problem, and, > frankly, after doing a bit more reading, I'm beginning to doubt the > Mac numbers. If you read the report at > > http://www.m86security.com/documents/pdfs/security_labs/cybercriminals_target_online_banking.pdf > , > there's this quote & then a table: "In addition to the included > exploits, the author of the toolkit enables his customers to review > and analyze incoming traffic." In that table, it includes Macs, > Playstations, Wiis, Linux, and others. I find it very hard to believe > that the same Trojan runs on all of those operating systems. But maybe > you do. > > Symantec has a nice page about Trojan.Zbot (the same trojan) at > > http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2010-011016-3514-99 > . > I quote: "Systems Affected: Windows 98, Windows 95, Windows XP, > Windows Me, Windows Vista, Windows NT, Windows Server 2003, Windows > 2000". That seems pretty clear. But maybe you know more. > > Further, the quote you ranted about, in which the author of the > original article suggests stopping use of the Net, was obviously > tongue in cheek, as the author made clear. But maybe you take > everything literally. > > Was the article FUD? I don't think so. Inaccurate? Depends what you're > willing to believe, I guess. > > Whatever. > > Scott > -- > R. Scott Granneman > [email protected] ~ www.granneman.com ~ granneman.tel > Full list of publications @ http://www.granneman.com/publications > My new book: Google Apps Deciphered @ http://www.granneman.com/books > > "It is always the best policy to speak the truth -- unless, of course, > you are an exceptionally good liar." > ---Jerome K. Jerome > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Theresa Kehoe <[email protected]> wrote: > > Scott, you said "Guess which OS"? and sent a link to an inaccurate > > article full of FUD. > > > > The correct answer to "which OS" is "more than one". > > > > Please tell me "which OS" is NOT provocative? > > > > Theresa > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 08:41 -0500, Scott Granneman wrote: > >> Theresa, please go back through every message I've ever sent to this > >> list & find the one where I said Macs are impervious to security > >> issues. Until you find that message, well, I'm sure you know what you > >> can do with yourself & your needlessly provocative message. :) > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Theresa Kehoe <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > OMG! OMG! Teh Intarwebs are INFESTED!!! "I suggest we all stop > using > >> > the Internet to be safe. An overreaction? Yes, obviously, but this > >> > actually sounds like a nasty bit of malware." > >> > > >> > Umm, OK, uuber-dude, but then how will we read your post to know if > it's > >> > safe to go back online again? > >> > > >> > By the way, Scott, the article is not only stupid FUD, it's dead > wrong. > >> > > >> > It Ain't Only Windows. Yup, that is correct. From The Register (who > is > >> > not nearly as bad at FUD): "The vast majority were Windows boxes, but > >> > 4,000 Mac machines were also hit." > >> > > >> > Yes, you read that right. 4,000 MAC MACHINES. Guess which OS, > Scott??? > >> > > >> > Theresa > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 15:49 -0500, Scott Granneman wrote: > >> >> Guess which OS? > >> >> > >> >> > http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/08/11/new-sophisticated-trojan-which-is-undetectable-has-emptied-bank-accounts-worldwide/ > >> >> > >> >> Scott > >> >> -- > >> >> R. Scott Granneman > >> >> [email protected] ~ www.granneman.com ~ granneman.tel > >> >> Full list of publications @ http://www.granneman.com/publications > >> >> My new book: Google Apps Deciphered @ > http://www.granneman.com/books > >> >> > >> >> "The vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. > >> >> And we will find those people and we will bring them to justice." > >> >> ---George W. Bush, October 28, 2003 > > -- > Central West End Linux Users Group (via Google Groups) > Main page: http://www.cwelug.org > To post: [email protected] > To subscribe: [email protected] > To unsubscribe: [email protected] > More options: http://groups.google.com/group/cwelug > -- Thank You for your time, Jason D. 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