Jamie
I must be missing something. Why not rent/lease the computers with the
software you require.
As a Microsoft OEM I can obtain Microsoft software at a discount for
computer I supply to customers. Win to the public here costs approx $150,
trade price is $85. Office can also be supplied in an OEM form.
The other point that comes to mind, which so much depends on your supplier,
is the finger pointing exercise that can happen. 'Nothing wrong with our
hardware it is the software' Buy/rent/lease from one source and it is their
problem totally.
Dick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jamie Steigerwald
> Sent: 19 December 2000 05:37
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [cc] Microsoft License Help
>
>
> Trying to be legal and having read the Microsoft EULA I decided to ask
> Microsoft for permission to place windows and office on computers
> that I am
> planning on renting. Below is the response I received. If anyone has any
> insight into how to get around this legally please let me know. I
> know there
> must be a way as Kinko's rents computers as well as all of you.
>
> Thank you for your help,
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
> Sent via email
> December 18, 2000
>
> Jamie Steigerwald
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Fullerton, CA
>
> Re: Permission Request
> Request Reference #: S1R3988
>
> Dear Jamie Steigerwald:
>
> The Permissions/Copyright Group has received your permission request dated
> December 15, 2000. Microsoft does not currently have a
> licensing solution
> which would allow you to rent Microsoft software in this manner at this
> time. Therefore, your request is denied.
>
> Thank you for your inquiry. Should you have further copyright permission
> requests, please visit our Permission web site at
> http://www.microsoft.com/permission/
> <http://www.microsoft.com/permission/>
> , as your answer may be located there. Since the response time from the
> Permission Group is generally 15 to 21 business days, you can
> expedite your
> receipt of an answer to your questions, by submitting your request via our
> on-line web request form located at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/permission/copyrgt/img-req.htm
> <http://www.microsoft.com/permission/copyrgt/img-req.htm> .
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Microsoft Corporation
> Permissions/Copyright Group (Law & Corporate
> Affairs)
>
> Website: www.microsoft.com/permission/
> <http://www.microsoft.com/permission/>
> Fax: (425) 936-7329
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .
> -1
>
> 45/freestyl.doc: 18129.doc
> Request ID: 18129
> Jamie Steigerwald
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Fullerton, CA
> Fax No:
> Phone No: (714) 996-9146
> Web Reference Number: S1R3988
> Web Request Type: Software
> Date of Request: 12/15/2000
> Date of Response:
>
> Q. Does the Microsoft End User License Agreement (EULA) or accompanying
> product documentation prohibit the use you are proposing?
> A. No
>
> Q. Please explain:
> A. Unsure, it does prohibit the renting of the software/hardware
> but we are
> renting the entire system as a service in an Internet Cafe.
>
> Q. What is the exact title and version of the Microsoft product from which
> you obtained the software?Please use the full name from the Microsoft
> product package, if applicable.
> A. Windows (98, ME, NT, 2000 professional, 2000 server), Office (Word,
> Excel, Power Point), Netmeeting, Internet Explorer, Sidewinder
> Hardware, and
> any other Microsoft software/hardware that would be of use to an Internet
> Cafe.
>
> Q. How was this software obtained?
> A. Other
>
> Q. If you selected Other, please explain:
> A. We have not obtained any software or hardware yet. Software will be
> obtained through all three methods OEM, Retail and Internet.
>
> Q. If from the Internet, provide the exact URL address or links needed to
> access the item(s):If this is a restricted site, please print out
> the exact
> web page on which you located the item(s) you are requesting permission to
> use. After you have submitted this web form, you will receive a reference
> number. Fax a printed copy of this web form, the printed web
> pages, and the
> reference number to (425) 936-7329.
> A. To be determined
>
> Q. If the item(s) was obtained from within a Microsoft product
> unrelated to
> the Internet, provide the exact location within the Microsoft product:This
> will allow us to locate the item within the product in question. Please
> note - we will be unable to process your request without this information.
> A. I do not believe that this applies to our request.
>
> Q. What is the name of the file(s), if applicable?Please include the file
> extension (i.e., .DLL, .EXE, etc.).
> A. I do not believe that this applies to our request.
>
> Q. Describe the exact feature or function this software performs, if
> applicable:Be as simple and thorough as possible.
> A. Functions for use as business and personal productivity and
> entertainment. Both on and off the Internet.
>
> Q. Provide detailed information regarding how this item(s) will
> be used:For
> example, whether this is to be used in a school project, in a book, in a
> software program, for your company logo, etc.
> A. Software and hardware will be installed on computers located in our
> Internet Cafe. Customers will have the right to rent the
> computers at a yet
> undetermined rate.
>
> Q. Explain the circumstances surrounding your inquiry:For example, why do
> you need the item(s)? Which issues are you trying to resolve? Etc.
> A. Internet Cafe's are used to allow the public access to the Internet,
> work, and/or play on computers located in our facility.
>
> Q. Provide an estimated timeframe this item(s) will be in active use:
> A. Continuously from the opening of our store which is scheduled
> for June 1,
> 2000.
>
> Q. If anyone other than you will be using this software, please explain:
> A. The software/hardware will be installed on a publicly accessible system
> which we will rent to our customers.
>
> Q. Approximately how many anticipated/known users?
> A. Unknown at this time.
>
> Q. Approximately how many anticipated copies do you need?
> A. Unknown at this time.
>
> Q. In what format will the software be distributed?
> A. Other
>
> Q. If you selected Other, please explain:
> A. No distribution of the software/hardware will take place.
> Customers must
> use the systems in our facilities.
>
> Q. Describe the nature of your business, company, product, services and/or
> event:For example, are you a Microsoft Delivery Service Partner (DSP),
> Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM), Solution Provider, Reseller,
> Educator, End-user, Tradeshow, Training Seminar, etc.
> A. We are an Internet Cafe, systems are provided to customers,
> for a fee, to
> allow them access to access the Internet, work, and/or play in
> our facility.
>
> Q. Have you had previous contact with Microsoft regarding this request?
> A. Yes
>
> Q. If so, with whom or which department did you correspond?
> A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Q. Additional comments:
> A. None at this time.
>
>
>
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