Re: [czernowitz-l] Deportation tain stories?

[Miriam Suss]

Hello all It interests me that some deportees were sent to Transnistria by train whereas my family was driven there by foot with a few wheelbarrows and decrepit carts for the infirm. Does anyone have any historical information about the rationale for this difference? Was it timing or some other reason? My family was forced to leave Czernowitz in October 1942.  Miriam Suss Email: ms...@bigpond.net.au Melbourne Australia  On 23 Dec 2022, at 6:42 am, Maurice Linker <link...@gmail.com> wrote:  Hi all  I doubt any of these luxuries would have been provided by the Rumanian guards  Get Outlook for iOS From: Maurice Linker <link...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2022 3:39:31 PM To: Mark Auslander <markauslan...@icloud.com>; czernowit...@cornell.edu <czernowit...@cornell.edu> Subject: Re: [czernowitz-l] Deportation tain stories?   Get Outlook for iOS From: bounce-127055246-63807...@list.cornell.edu <bounce-127055246-63807...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Mark Auslander <markauslan...@icloud.com> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2022 10:02:08 AM To: czernowit...@cornell.edu <czernowit...@cornell.edu> Subject: [czernowitz-l] Deportation tain stories?   Friends, Might I ask, as terrible as these stories are, if there are any accounts or memories of what actually took place inside the trains (evidently, cattle cars) used to transport people from Bukovina into Transnistria in the Fall of 1941? My cousin Jonathan Pagis (whose father Severin [Dan] Pagis travelled on the train with his grandparents, my great grandparents Isak and Clara Auslander) shared a story from a Radautz survivor, that her mother told her and her sisters to get to the train early (this would have been around 10 October 1941) to place down clean linens on the floorboards, so the family could travel comfortably—with no intimations of the horrors to come,  Cousin Dan himself to my knowledge never spoke directly as to what occurred on board the train heading to Moghilev, although this is the subject of one of his most famous poems.  We are of course familiar with accounts of other Holocaust trains, some of which evidently had military snipers on board shooting at escapees. Did anything like that happen in Bukovina?  I assume no food or water was provided for those in the trains, which were presumably without heat.  And has the Caile Ferate Romane ever issued an apology for its complicity in the deporations?  sending warmest regards to all on the list, Mark Mark Auslander   This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of    Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed  in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not necessarily  the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members  or entities connected with this mailing list. 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