Hi Thomas, I used Wolf Faust R1 just because I already had it to calibrate my 
scanner but if I were too get another one for my camera I would get the C1; 
its 3 times the cost of the R1 at 30 euro but its bigger (A4) and non-glossy 
so it's easier to get a good shot.
I have had disappointing results with custom ICC profiles maybe in part because 
of the scanner target, but the darktable-chart styles that I created with it 
in different lighting situations have all had near identical positive results.
Over all I agree with Jo about  darktable-chart.

Tim.


On Monday, 23 October 2017 09:10:26 BST Thomas Werzmirzowsky wrote:
> > Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2017 um 07:47 Uhr
> > Von: "Robert William Hutton" <[email protected]>
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] Exported JPG vs. Camera JPG
> > 
> > On 22/10/17 20:27, Thomas Werzmirzowsky wrote:
> > > I shot a portrait with my Canon EOS 60D and noticed that the JPG from
> > > the Canon in portrait image mode looks significantly better than the one
> > > exported from Darktable. Especially the blue color looks much more
> > > natural in the camera JPG.
> > 
> > I have a 60D and a 5d mark iii. I can vouch for the fact that the
> > "enhanced colour matrix" that is the default does a poor job with the 60D
> > raws (generally much better with the 5d3 raws), mostly with the blues.
> 
> Yes that's what I noticed too. If I switch to "standard colour matrix" the
> results are much better.
> > I found creating my own matrix from a Wolf Faust target worked really
> > well,
> 
> Tim Rolph also mentioned the Wolf Faust target but I have to admit that
> looking at the website I don't know what to order. What "Order #" would be
> the right one?
> > but ultimately decided that having the additional dependency of having
> > that profile present if I wanted to re-edit the images at a later date
> > wasn't worth it, and I do much as you do: use the standard profile.
> > Sometimes also setting the gamut clipping to linear rec2020 is a good
> > option as well.
> I don't really get that. Don't you have to create the profile just once and
> then it's done? As the color mapping should contain all colours it
> shouldn't change from photo shot to phot phot, should it? Or would it be
> needed to create a new matrix for every photo shot just like doing a gray
> card shot for the white balance?
> > I can probably dig up the 60D profile if you'd like to try it.
> 
> It would be great if you could lookup the profile. I'd like to give it a
> try.
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Rob
> 
> Thanks a lot. Also @Tim Rolph.
> 
> Best regards
> Thomas
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