On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, at 06:31, Šarūnas wrote:

> I hear what you are saying. I use Olympus cameras since one of their
> first digital SLR, E-500, and like Olympus's out of camera (OOC) color
> rendition very much. It would be my preferred starting point while
> working on RAW.

I'm coming from a similar place, with some reservations... I've always been 
slightly annoyed with the tendency to blow out reds into magenta and turn sky a 
little too cyan, but in general I think Olympus rendering has been pretty good, 
at least for images which benefit from the "punchy" contrast (some obviously 
don't). With the original filmic module, I was able to closely match the curve 
to the camera rending with the help of an IT-8 chart and a few beers. The 
settings were fairly extreme, which somewhat defeated the purpose of having a 
default with nice parametric adjustment available... but it was possible.

The new filmic RGB features a custom spline which enforces more linearity in 
the midrange, and while I understand the idea behind it, I think it may be the 
source of some people's frustrations. Simply put, the "look" it provides is not 
one that everyone likes for everything, even with increases to local/global 
contrast, etc. My understanding is that one of the problems with the old 
version was a tendency towards oscillations, although I didn't experience this 
myself. If this could be mitigated to a reasonable extent, then adding an 
option to the new filmic to use something more like the old spline might be a 
real "crowd pleaser", and increase the general acceptance of the module... and 
the underlying idea of the module is a really good one!

So, because I really like the idea of the parametric controls which filmic 
offers, my own approach lately has been a hybrid one: using a target shot and a 
variety of test images, I tried to find a generally sane default preset for 
filmic RGB without any extreme settings. It gives "reasonable" renderings of my 
camera's RAWs, even if they don't resemble the camera's rendering. Then, using 
the same corpus of test images, I manually created an "extra" curve to add a 
"knee" to filmic's relative linearity, bringing things close enough (not 
*quite* as "punchy") to camera rendering for my tastes. Applying both of these 
by default, I can simply disable the extra curve for the images which are 
better suited to "plain filmic"... and either way have some parametric control 
for adjustment. It seems to work well so far, but I'm absolutely not implying 
that this is a "correct" approach. :-)

The attached style is what I'm using as of this moment; it may work well with 
Olympus 16MP sensor cameras generally, or may not, but it's an example of what 
I'm describing, for whatever that's worth. I also so some color profiling with 
the color LUT module, but it's probably very camera-specific, hence not 
included in the style. So, that's my two cents!

-- 
jys
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