* Top Rock Photography <ka...@toprockphotography.com> [01-29-21 21:14]:
> My only demand is that the lawyer gets on the phone and speak to the AOM
> people. It has been almost one year! IANAL….
> 
> …But I have read the AOM license,, and I have studied the case of Nokia vs
> the other members of AOM, and HEIF. In that case, all the other lawyers
> claim that a) Nokia never held a patent on the parts of HEIF used in
> AV1/AVIF, and, whatever patent they claim to have would have already
> expired.
> 
> That leaves all remaining patents within the powers of AOM and their
> licensing.
> 
> The issue was not coding, but waiting to hear from the lawyer…. for almost
> a year. Robin Mills was willing to work on the code at one point, but
> several people kept claiming that, despite the publicly available license,
> and the work done by clothes, (including Exiftool), that Mills cannot put
> any code which reads the metadata (forget about even writing it), into
> exiv2. It ended with him running out of time, because no lawyer got back to
> give the go-ahead, (or to affirm that it could not be done). Ergo, it will
> not be done for exiv2 version 0.28.
> 
> Well, that is what the closed, feature request thread says. (It does not
> say, “about a year,” but it has been over a year since the thread/response
> was started, and mills giving his stance on 0.28 was almost a year ago).
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Karim Hosein
> Top Rock Photography
> 754.999.1652
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 17:19, Martin Straeten <martin.strae...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Why don’t you take over the responsibility for the project? And be fully
> > accountable for a possible copyright or patent infringement?
> > It is presumptuous to demand something from others that you are not
> > willing to contribute yourself.
> >
> > Am 29.01.2021 um 20:11 schrieb Top Rock Photography <
> > ka...@toprockphotography.com>:
> >
> > 
> > My only concern is that, although AVIF is not patent encumbered, he
> > refused to add the reading/writing of metadata data to AVIF, until he
> > speaks to a lawyer. That has been quite a long time ago and so, my AVIF
> > files made by darktable seem to have no metadata.
> >
> > Currently, Exiftool is no better (in that regard). Worse yet, aside from
> > the most popular browsers, (Firefox, Chrome/Chromium), I cannot find a
> > viewer for AVIF files.
> >
> > Does one really need a lawyer to work for over one year to decide that the
> > reading/writing of metadata in an AVIF does NOT violate any patents not
> > covered by the open license? Is his lawyer billing him at US$20,000 per day?
> >
> > I am confident that the exiv2 project will be taken over. I just hope that
> > whoever takes it over has a lawyer who knows how to make phone calls and/or
> > write letters.
> >
> > I have other issues on AVIF support, but this is not the thread for that.
> >
> >
> >>
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but leaves you free to fork the project and include support for avif and
no longer wait for the laywers.   

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