I find this discussion regarding 'finding modules' and 'module order', 
odd to say the least. Maybe it is simply my rather different approach to 
processing.

I use a number of predefined styles that I can initially apply to a 
group of incoming raw images. This of course is only a starting point 
but it allows me to far better evaluate the result of my day's shoot 
(and do some initial grading) without the tedium of trying to work 
through image by image. Those modules (from the style) that need further 
adjusting are now all conveniently located together in the 'pipe' group. 
Following that there usually are only two or three further refinements 
that I need to make using other modules but after a while I quickly have 
come to know where those are located; no fuss.

I put nothing into the favourites ... my favourites are located in an 
appropriate style. If an available style is not suitable for an incoming 
set then I simply create a style that is appropriate based on an image 
that is typical of the group.

David

On 13-05-13 06:54 AM, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:
> 100% agreed.
>
> Marie-Noëlle
>
> 2013/5/13 Jiew Peng Lim <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>
>     "The problem is that people will move stuff around, and then make
>     very invalid assumptions about order of application. This will
>     confuse people to a very high degree, and likely generate a lot of
>     avoidable questions about why moving modules around doesn't change
>     the image."
>
>     -If this is the main problem, then make it such that every time
>     you shift the position of a module, there is a message that tells
>     you that shifting the module will not change the order of
>     application of the effects, and hence will not change the look of
>     the image. What I understood in your previous reply to me was that
>     it was more of a problem of troubleshooting, and not about users
>     having questions about why their images look the same after
>     shifting modules around.
>
>     "Which is more or less why the favorites category exists, which
>     you can customize."
>
>     -You can only choose what modules to put there, you cannot
>     rearrange them. What Marie-Noelle and I have been talking about is
>     not being able to find the modules we want to, because of the way
>     they are arranged. The first thing I think of when I want to edit
>     an image, for instance, is white balance and exposure, not
>     vignetting. If I chuck exposure and vignetting and some other
>     modules into the favourites tab, the first thing I see is
>     vignetting - which is not what people do the first thing they open
>     up an image.
>
>     Perhaps a compromise can be made where users can rearrange modules
>     in the favourites tab, but cannot do so in the other tabs. The
>     favourites tab is meant to suit individual workflow, and that's
>     what it should achieve. I'm not expecting this in the next version
>     since you guys are focusing on masks, but I hope to see something
>     like that in future releases. For other tabs, they can remain with
>     fixed positions of the modules to give users an insight on how
>     stuff works.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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>
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>
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