From: "Colin Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group <[email protected]>
To: "Dataperfect Users Discussion Group" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DPSpool / Printer Configuration Question
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:42:57 +1200
Tim,
Don't know if this is important but to get the direct to printer printing
correct we set printer to following
Emulation mode - Epsom FX
Font - Utility
Symbol sets - Character set 2
Line spacing 6LPI
And these are the same setting when it comes via DPspool
Colin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dataperfect Users Discussion Group" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:09
Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DPSpool / Printer Configuration Question
> Hi Tim,
>
> Driver loaded from Win NT4 folder on cd is OKIMLNT4.dll
> I could send you directly a copy of and the associated printer.inf file
if
> it would be of any use.
> Exact paper size is 215H by 345W (Report margins are set to 2, 2, 0 & 47
and
> works fine printing directly via NT spooler with 8" page length)
> There is not a predetermined paper size listed under the printer in
dpspool
> that matches exactly but one is fairly close in both Panasonic & Oki.
> No. 140:FLS4 (216x330) that I believe with a pitch change to some of the
RH
> side printing I could make it fit width wise
> and Height wise could also get it to work even with manual adjustment
every
> so often. But using the <249> settings for any of the predifined sizes
> appears to make no difference to how far the print can go agross the
page
> I'm picking that the problem is going to be, as you suggested earlier,
with
> the NT 4.0 OP system and its drivers.
> Just done a check using a Canon i6100 ink jet printer that prints dp
output
> thru DPspool on A4 paper. It handles A3 paper and it
> won't print past the same width as both the Panasonic and the OKI either
> when a larger size paper is coded into report.
> Just to clarify I am trying to print with pitch set to 12 - similar to
the
> Dos type size that we get with printing direct to the printer
> This lines up with the vertical perforations on the multipart forms we
use.
> On all the printers, if I change the Pitch setting in the report to say
P8
> then the form is printed completely, simply because it fits within
> the width limitation that I am experiencing. But of course the print no
> longer aligns where it needs to on the form.
>
> And Tim, this is not a major if not achievable - We've been printing
> directly onto these forms since 1989. It would be nice to "highlight"
> some of the info by way of Bold/ Underline Font change etc to make it
even
> more easier to read in the factory.
> If you thinks its easy fixable - fine. But please don't spent alot of
time
> on it - it isn't life or death. Its only having access to another brand
of
> printer that's
> prompted me to re-visit the problem
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
> Colin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Rude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Dataperfect Users Discussion Group" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2007 01:53
> Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DPSpool / Printer Configuration Question
>
>
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > First of all, what Windows printer driver are you using with the Oki
> > ML721? I went online and looked up the Okidata Microline 721 on the
> > Okidata website but they don't offer a driver for download. They say:
> > "Driver support is included within the Operating System. If you cannot
> > find your specific printer model please consult your user manual for a
> > list of compatible Emulations." So I downloaded and read the user
manual
> > and it seems to indicate that the printer comes with a CD with
drivers.
> > And there is no ML721 driver pre-included with Windows (2000 or XP).
So
> > what driver is being used with the printer?
> >
> > Then, what is the exact paper size you're trying to use?
> >
> > Finally, does the printer driver have a predefined paper size that
> > exactly matches the actual paper size?
> >
> > I know we've been down some of this road before, but if I have some
> > exact specs I can do some experimenting here.
> >
> > Tim Rude
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Colin Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "DataPerfect Users Discussion Group" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DPSpool / Printer Configuration Question
> >
> >
> > > Hi Tim,
> > >
> > > Just dug up the old correspondence - see in part below. I'd
forgotton
> > how
> > > detailed we got last time.
> > > Was hoping I'd have more luck with a different brand of Printer.
> > Difference
> > > is no "squashing" is occurring
> > > Using the predefined page sizes seems to have no effect on the Oki
> > Printer
> > > either
> > > so I'm thinking we may have already exhausted all the options
> > available
> > > :-( unless you have
> > > a recently discovered solution :-)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Colin
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tim Rude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "DataPerfect Users Discussion Group" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Friday, 24 February 2006 02:51
> > > Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DPSpool / Printer Configuration Question
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Colin,
> > > >
> > > > I suspect that the Windows printer driver is the one imposing the
> > > > limitation. You need to select the proper paper type so that the
> > Windows
> > > > printer driver realizes that it isn't printing to A4 paper.
> > > >
> > > > Although you tried the <249>Sw:h<249> code, this doesn't usually
> > work
> > > > properly under NT-flavors of Windows (NT, 2K,XP, etc.). Hopefully,
> > the
> > > > driver for your printer has a predefined page size that matches
your
> > > paper.
> > > > Then it should be simply a matter of selecting that paper type
using
> > the
> > > > <249>Snum<249> code.
> > > >
> > > > In DPSpool, on the printer selection screen, click on the Printer
> > > > Information button and select your KX-P3696 printer. Set the units
> > to mm
> > > and
> > > > then scroll through the list of paper sizes looking for one that
> > matches
> > > > your paper measurements. Hopefully one will match (although the
> > height and
> > > > width may be reversed). When you find a match, make note of the
size
> > > number.
> > > > That's the number you use in the code above. If the height and
width
> > and
> > > > reversed you'll need to set it to print in Landscape mode rather
> > than
> > > > Portrait.
> > > >
> > > > [Note: If you can't find an exact match, try to find one where one
> > > dimension
> > > > is exactly 210 mm and the other dimension is at least 410 mm. The
> > 210 mm
> > > is
> > > > critical because that's the height and you want the printer to
> > advance to
> > >
> > > > the next page properly. But it would be OK for Windows to think it
> > has
> > > more
> > > > width available than is actually there, since your report would be
> > laid
> > > out
> > > > to only use the first 410 mm anyway.]
> > > >
> > > > I hope this helps. If not, let me know and we'll try something
else.
> > > >
> > > > Tim Rude
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Colin Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "DataPerfect Users Discussion Group" <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:57 PM
> > > > Subject: [Dataperf] DPSpool / Printer Configuration Question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Question for Tim Rude
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Tim,
> > > > >
> > > > > I mentioned a while back replacing my wide "vintage" dot matrix
> > printers
> > > > > with something a bit more modern but hopefully getting Dpspool
> > output to
> > > > > work through them to spruce up the presentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently testing a Panasonic KX-P3696 (wide Dot Matrix) which
has
> > both
> > > > > Epsom & IBM Emulation. By setting to Epsom graphics 1 character
> > set and
> > > > > printing straight from Dataperfect, my wide page forms print
fine
> > in the
> > > > std
> > > > > Dos text format including line drawn boxes etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have taken that same report and added the Dpspool
configuration
> > at
> > > top
> > > > as
> > > > > below
> > > > >
> > > > > ?????????????????????????FIRST PAGE HEADER ??????????????
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------Prompt for Value of Report Variable
> > 40 -------------
> > > > > --------------------Store Value in Report Variable
> > 250 -----------------
> > > > > *****cat.c["c:\wtsrv\profiles\"RV40"\dpspool\printdoc\";
> > > > > apply.format["G999";today - date[1;1;year[today]] + 1]
> > > > > apply.format["G99999";now];
> > > > > ".{4}"]*****
> > > > > --------------------Turn File
> > Off---------------------------------------
> > > > > --------------------Begin Writing to Filename in Report Variable
> > 250 ---
> > > > > --------------------Turn File
> > On----------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Having added some bold and underline codes and even font changes
-
> > the
> > > > > DPSpool file viewer shows the report looks fine and as expected.
> > However
> > > > > when released from DPSpool to the printer the output is getting
> > close to
> > > > > what is required but not quite :-(
> > > > >
> > > > > The font changes underlining etc is fine but the printer
squashes
> > every
> > > > > thing on to the page (width wise) as if it was printing onto A4
> > paper.
> > > > Also
> > > > > the line drawn boxes print characters instead of the boxes.
> > > > > In the Dataperfect Report the info on the right hand side of the
> > page is
> > > > > positioned by use of the space bar but when going through
DPSpool
> > to the
> > > > > printer that same spacing is compressed when actually printing.
> > I've
> > > been
> > > > > playing around with different settings for a while but having no
> > luck in
> > > > > fixing this. All previous output through DPSpool in the past has
> > been to
> > > > A4
> > > > > type forms and we haven't experienced this sort of problem
before.
> > The
> > > A4
> > > > > type reports are usually sent to Windows type printers, but when
> > sent to
> > > > > this new dot Matrix printer they also print OK thru DPSpool.
> > > > > Its the wide line flow Factory Production forms we are trying to
> > print
> > > to,
> > > > > that is giving the problem. (They are 210mm long by 410mm wide).
> > > > > I have tried printer code <249>Sw:h<249> but this does not
appear
> > to
> > > have
> > > > > any effect. Not sure if this is due to some printer limitation
or
> > simply
> > > I
> > > > > haven't yet got the configuration right ???
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions you may have that we should try, would be much
> > > > appreciated -
> > > > > its the old "so close yet so far" scenario
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Colin Roberts
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