Hi Tom,
I go along with Michael on this... IP or IPX should not matter as long as you
can drive map to the shaerd folder and that you have create read write delete
and modify permission.... and that you do not have program execution
restrictions on your PC firewall...
One thing which can be a gotch... it is possible to turn off the DOS creation
of 8.3 file format for long file names. For example if you have a long file
name (LFN) say C:\Program Files\My Program\blah.exe then the operating system
generall assigns a DOS compatibile filename such as
C:\PROGRA~1\MYPROGR~1\BLAH.EXE, so there are actually two filename associated
with a LFN. I
f you have disabled this and DP was on a path like this then you would have
problems. The reason for disabling it is that if you have no need for 8.3
format names then you improve the computers performance, and in fact some
performance tweaking software for Vista does this by default; making the
assumption that you will not be using DOS or Windows 3.x software, which in
many cases is a reasonable assumption... Vista needs all the help in can
get... Because you do not readily see the second DOS 8.3 name you may not
know that it exists, or that it doesn;t exist...
If you do find that the creation of 8.3 names from LFN's has been disabled and
you do not want to or do not know how to enable it, then you could create a
mapping to the root folder of your application, so for example in the above is
your substituted or mapped the drive N: = C:\Program Files\My Program then you
blah.exe application would see that it exists in N:\Blah.exe and that overcomes
the problem without reenabling the DOS 8.3 filenames.
Regards
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Shadel
To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell
Tom,
If you can see and browse the network from the vista machine then that means
that you are connected or logged into the server Thus you must have a Novell
client loaded on the vista machine and making the connection. Now weather the
client is connecting with IP or IPX does not really matter. I have avoided
vista so far so I do not no if Novell has made a client for vista. I do know
that sense Netware 5.1 connectivity by IP has been possible and with 6.0 and
6.5 you have to check a box in order to use IPX.
Are there any rights set up that lets you browse a network drive but not run
or write to the drive. Would it make any difference if you ran dp locally or
can you? Does vista have a firewall stopping you?
Michael
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt,
Although I have a high degree of suspision that IPX is reason I cannot see
dp apps, my knowledge of such matters is so limited that I was hoping someone
could connect the dots for me and say for sure that dp and novell are not
compatible with Vista generally but here is a work around. I guess that is not
going to happen. In fact, I came to the conclusion only because of postings I
found that you also found and forwarded.
But thanks again for trying.
Matt Dwyer wrote:
No, I did not have that problem - sorry I can't be more helpful. I only
have two stupid thoughts:
1) I assume you are persistently assigning drive letters and not using
UNC? I don't think I can get unc to work in dos (errr, cmd window).
2) I don't suppose the old shell /nt= switch would help?
I see there are some excruciating posts about this ipx issue:
http://tinyurl.com/32xyfu
http://tinyurl.com/3c97vl
The end of the last one says you can do ipx-less clients in NW6.5, but
not sure if that works for you. Perhaps not. I bailed on Groupwise and
NW a long time ago, so my NW knowledge has evaporated.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TomYuhas
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:36 PM
To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group
Subject: RE: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell
Thanks Matt but I think Novell experience may be different. The problem
is seeing the app after starting DP -- no apps appear listed on network
folder, even though one is clearly present -- it just does not show in
DP -- but does show in any file manager. Also, if I try to create a new
database on network folder, it errors out. I'll need to look at error
code if you need that, but DP just does not like network folder even
though I am able to start DP from the same network folder.
I think I have a handle on shortcut setup -- although I am starting DP
from WP Office Shell 3.1. DP starts fine as I mentioned earlier, it
just does not display any apps in the same directory that DP is started
from and same as designated directory in Shell setup.
So, I wonder if at anytime during your network setup did you run into
problem where you could start DP but could not see any apps displayed?
If yes, what setting changed that?
Thanks again,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Dwyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jan 22, 2008 11:59 AM
To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell
I use Vista on W2K3 server (tcp/ip). Vista is a pita to set up, but
once set up was fine.
Not sure I remember all I did to set it up, here is some of it. You
can specify compatibility mode when you run a batch file/shortcut, I
assume you messed with that already. If not, start there.
HP printers need a new universal printing driver, and you need to
install it in dynamic mode, not traditional mode. I think.
Protected root directory, so I made a c:\batch directory.
Some shortcuts work better if you select RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR
Use SETX instead of SET to set variables (SETX is sticky, so one time
only)
For help files, see http://tinyurl.com/2n2z7g
I think I had some other tricks too if this list is too short.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:14 PM
To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group
Subject: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell
I posted a question earlier regarding use of DP on Novell Netware 6.5
network from a Vista Ultimate workstation.
I cannot see the network STR selection after launching DP. This is a
huge problem since law office has been running client.case DP database
since 1992.
DP launches fine, I can even select a DP App located on the
workstation, I just can't see -- so cannot select -- any DP application
located on the server.
First, is anyone using DP App located on any type network server from a
Vista workstation?
Has anyone found a work around for the problem with Novell network from
Vista work stations -- other than virtual win98 machine solution which
I've already employed -- but not really satisfactorily?
Does anyone have theory on why files can be viewed using vista from
just about any file manager but once DP launches it cannot see its own
application from within DP?
Could lack of IPX support for Vista and For Netware Vista Drivers have
anything to do with this?
Thanks.
Tom Yuhas
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