Hi Lincoln,

You can see the mail headers by opening the message, clicking View, then Options.  The 
headers are at the bottom of the screen.

Glen


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 8:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Unsubscribing?
> 
> 
> Well,
> 
> We use MS outlook98 and MS Exchange server here, and I can 
> find no way of showing the mail headers. Nada.  So I guess it 
> is not a "decent mailer". What a surprize.  
> 
> Given the (regretable) almost universal business adoption of 
> MS products for office automation, it is probably a mistake 
> to assume that just because the information is in the 
> headers, that it is accessible (or even that the user is aware of it).
> 
> Lincoln
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Speich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Unsubscribing?
> 
> 
> I think the issue is that headers are not someone thinks 
> about when they are looking at a message, at least not your 
> average person.  They look at the message, and the basics 
> that are provided (who, date, subject).  The important things.
> 
> Perhaps a 2 line footer at the end of messages is the way to 
> go, perhaps not.
> 
> --K
> 
> On 12/6/2001 at 9:30 PM Brett W. McCoy wrote:
> 
> #On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> #
> #> If the subscriber is using with a MicroSloth environment 
> #(Outlook/Exchange), #> s/he does not see that information.  
> I was not even aware it was there #until #> you pointed it 
> out because I subscribe to the list at work, where 
> #microsloth #> is universal for office automation. # #Surely 
> Outlook has a way of letting you view message headers?  I 
> think #under the view menu it has an option for showing 
> headers.  I normally #don't have my headers showing either 
> (Pine has a similar feature letting #you view headers if you 
> need to) -- I just happened to know that any #decent mailing 
> list software puts that information in the headers.  Some 
> #mailers (like Pine) will also detect those fields and 
> display them for you #at the end of each message. #
> #-- Brett
> #                                          
> http://www.chapelperilous.net/
> 
> #-------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------
> #Your mode of life will be changed to EBCDIC.
> 
> 
> --
> Ken Speich                      Isn't having a smoking section in a 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]               restaurant like having a peeing
> http://www.csh.rit.edu/~kenny   section in a swimming pool?
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