Nick, try typing 'amixer' as root and see if it gives you a message like
'host not accessible'. If it does then you could paste the information
I had in the other message into your trouble ticket. Or maybe we need
to open a new issue, I'm not sure.
On 3/23/26 4:55 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
Hi, I submitted the logs to this debian Bug#1111121:
installation-reports: Forky debian-installer the same issue exists.
Nick Gawronski
On 3/23/2026 1:58 PM, Chevelle wrote:
Speakup works fine in the console on Debian testing. It is possible
I changed something since I installed it a while back. I assume you
installed the 'espeak' package. Without knowing how you installed it
or what you did, it is hard to troubleshoot remotely.
On 3/23/26 1:10 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote:
Hi, Yes I totally understand and this is what I meant when I said
that speakup works much better in the console then orca does in the
graphical terminal. My issue is that on Forky, if I press control
and alt and f1 I get no speech from the espeakup software and when
working with the shell I prefer to use the console and not the
graphical terminal application as like I said before orca will read
things that speakup will not as it reads what updates and not what
has already been read. I prefer working in the text consoles and
not the graphical terminals when I need to use the shell. Nick
Gawronski
On 3/23/2026 3:15 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
As Glenn correctly points out, speakup only works in a console and
ORCA only works in the graphical user interface (GUI) and opening
up a text terminal inside the GUI.
New comers often mix up running a text terminal in Orca compared
with directly opening one of the virtual consoles.
A console refers to the system's low-level text interface, such as
virtual consoles (TTYs accessed via Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6), which provide
direct, full-screen access to the OS kernel and shell without a
graphical environment.
A terminal (or terminal emulator like GNOME Terminal which uses
Orca) is a graphical windowed application within a desktop
environment (e.g., opened via Ctrl+Alt+T) that emulates a console,
passing input to a shell and displaying output.
I'm confused if everyone understands the difference because it's
easy to confuse them but they are two different things.
If everyone already knows this, I apologize, but years ago I
thought orca running GNOME terminal was what people were
talking about when they mentioned the "console". It isn't, it is
more basic than the Graphical User Interface (GUI), it's running
underneath the GUI, underneath Orca. Open it up as I described in
the first paragraph. The Graphical environment GUI runs in a
console, but the other consoles are available for use. Often F1 is
the GUI so I proposed opening the F3 console. Remember you can only
run console apps and direct commands in a console but you will
notice how much faster it is than the GUI and Orca.
David Ring
On Mon, Mar 23, 2026, 02:05 K0LNY ?? <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't think you would want speakup in a terminal.
I am guessing that most people who want Speakup rather than Orca,
call up a
console and run Speakup there.
Speakup won't really work in a GUI session, which is where the
terminal is
running from.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "john doe" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: <[email protected] <mailto:debian-
[email protected]>>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2026 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: Forky installer speakup does not work after
installation but
orca does
On 3/22/26 20:00, Nick Gawronski wrote:
> Hi, I just installed Forky and noticed that orca comes up as
normal
> after the installation in mate but if I try to access just the
consoles
> I have no speech from speakup what so ever. This should be
fixed as
> that could really be a mess for some users and orca is not the
best in
> terminal applications.
>
Why according to you, Orca is not working in the terminal?
I use Orca in the terminal on a daily bases without problem.
-- John Doe
