On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 10:30:54AM -0400, Chevelle wrote: > Nick, try typing 'amixer' as root and see if it gives you a message like > 'host not accessible'. If it does then you could paste the information I > had in the other message into your trouble ticket. Or maybe we need to open > a new issue, I'm not sure. > >
Hi Chevelle and hi Nick, Can I respectfully suggest that you only use testing if you can troubleshoot reliably - with testing and, especially, unstable there may be a lot of package churn. If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces :( Can you reproduce these problems on debian-stable? Andy ([email protected]) > On 3/23/26 4:55 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: > > Hi, I submitted the logs to this debian Bug#1111121: > > installation-reports: Forky debian-installer the same issue exists. Nick > > Gawronski > > > > On 3/23/2026 1:58 PM, Chevelle wrote: > > > Speakup works fine in the console on Debian testing. It is possible > > > I changed something since I installed it a while back. I assume you > > > installed the 'espeak' package. Without knowing how you installed > > > it or what you did, it is hard to troubleshoot remotely. > > > > > > > > > On 3/23/26 1:10 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: > > > > Hi, Yes I totally understand and this is what I meant when I > > > > said that speakup works much better in the console then orca > > > > does in the graphical terminal. My issue is that on Forky, if I > > > > press control and alt and f1 I get no speech from the espeakup > > > > software and when working with the shell I prefer to use the > > > > console and not the graphical terminal application as like I > > > > said before orca will read things that speakup will not as it > > > > reads what updates and not what has already been read. I prefer > > > > working in the text consoles and not the graphical terminals > > > > when I need to use the shell. Nick Gawronski > > > > > > > > On 3/23/2026 3:15 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > > > > As Glenn correctly points out, speakup only works in a > > > > > console and ORCA only works in the graphical user interface > > > > > (GUI) and opening up a text terminal inside the GUI. > > > > > > > > > > New comers often mix up running a text terminal in Orca > > > > > compared with directly opening one of the virtual consoles. > > > > > > > > > > A console refers to the system's low-level text interface, > > > > > such as virtual consoles (TTYs accessed via Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6), > > > > > which provide direct, full-screen access to the OS kernel > > > > > and shell without a graphical environment. > > > > > > > > > > A terminal (or terminal emulator like GNOME Terminal which > > > > > uses Orca) is a graphical windowed application within a > > > > > desktop environment (e.g., opened via Ctrl+Alt+T) that > > > > > emulates a console, passing input to a shell and displaying > > > > > output. > > > > > > > > > > I'm confused if everyone understands the difference because > > > > > it's easy to confuse them but they are two different things. > > > > > > > > > > If everyone already knows this, I apologize, but years ago > > > > > I thought orca running GNOME terminal was what people were > > > > > talking about when they mentioned the "console". It isn't, > > > > > it is more basic than the Graphical User Interface (GUI), > > > > > it's running underneath the GUI, underneath Orca. Open it up > > > > > as I described in the first paragraph. The Graphical > > > > > environment GUI runs in a console, but the other consoles > > > > > are available for use. Often F1 is the GUI so I proposed > > > > > opening the F3 console. Remember you can only run console > > > > > apps and direct commands in a console but you will notice > > > > > how much faster it is than the GUI and Orca. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Ring > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2026, 02:05 K0LNY ?? <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't think you would want speakup in a terminal. > > > > > I am guessing that most people who want Speakup rather than Orca, > > > > > call up a > > > > > console and run Speakup there. > > > > > Speakup won't really work in a GUI session, which is where the > > > > > terminal is > > > > > running from. > > > > > Glenn > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "john doe" <[email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > To: <[email protected] <mailto:debian- > > > > > [email protected]>> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2026 12:44 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: Forky installer speakup does not work after > > > > > installation but > > > > > orca does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/22/26 20:00, Nick Gawronski wrote: > > > > > > Hi, I just installed Forky and noticed that orca > > > > > comes up as normal > > > > > > after the installation in mate but if I try to access just the > > > > > consoles > > > > > > I have no speech from speakup what so ever. This > > > > > should be fixed as > > > > > > that could really be a mess for some users and orca is not the > > > > > best in > > > > > > terminal applications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why according to you, Orca is not working in the terminal? > > > > > > > > > > I use Orca in the terminal on a daily bases without problem. > > > > > > > > > > -- John Doe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
