reopen 461984
thanks

Please let this bug open until we can all consider it "solved". It
doesn't hurt having one more open bug on coreutils when you already have
200+ of them.

On 23/01/08 at 22:09 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> How 'bout we let this sit for a couple of months and see if things haven't 
> changed now that 6.10 is released.

My main complaint about the state of coreutils is with bug reports.
Upstream is very cooperative, so there's no reason why so many bugs are
left untriaged/unresolved. Putting more attention on bug reports would
probably help improving coreutils, both upstream and in Debian.

FWIW, the choice of not going with 6.X in etch or unstable seem very
reasonable to me.

How about we try to discuss some reasonable rules for minimal team
maintainance? I understand that you don't want to hand over coreutils to 
co-maintainers without any assurance that it will work. Something like:

1. You are the main maintainer. You do all the uploads. Nobody else does
   uploads, except following the normal NMU procedures of course.
2. A {svn,git} repository is setup, and write access is given to
   interested people. You use this repository when doing uploads. You
   commit your changes to it.
3. You are free to revert changes made in the repository, provided that
   you provide enough information to the one who made the change, so that
   he can understand why you did it. If he disagrees, you try to be a 
   least a bit open to discussion.
4. Later, we try to have a discussion about the management of the
   Maintainer: and Uploaders: fields. But this isn't important for now.

That's all. If you agree with the above, I'll consider the issue
resolved, and I think others will, as well. You just have to tell me
which kind of repository you want (svn or git, or even something else,
I don't care).

> And if anyone wants to help sort through the old bug reports, go for it.

Sure, the above isn't necessary for people to sort through old bugs. But
sorting bugs is the responsability of the maintainer. If you want people
to help with that, you have to give at least something in exchange.
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