The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gmane.linux.debian.devel.ctte as well.
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 12:49:14AM +0100, Ian Jackson �crivait: >> We should only approve the release of Gnome2 into stable without the >> `2' suffix if we're sure, now, that we will definitely only want to >> release one set of Gnome packages, with no choices for end-users and >> with only having choices for sysadmins by using different >> distributions and possibly even manual package fetching. > > Have we ever offered that choice with KDE ? Why would you want to > provide that choice for GNOME ? Cause gnome2 does not offer all the functionnalities of gnome1 _right now_. If I'm not wrong, the choice is offered for apache for example. > Nobody is asking for a choice in the long term. If people wanted to > provide the choice, it's only for a few months, the time for Gnome 2 to > mature ... no more. > >> install the Gnome2 from unstable alongside the Gnome1 from stable, > > That's not easily doable and nobody has ever proposed it in the > debate. Make them conflict if it's not possible to have both installed at the same time. <couic> >> the release manager may wish to choose at a late stage whether to go >> with Gnome1 or 2, depending on available information and quality. >> Prejudging that issue now is a mistake. > > The choice is possible, he's the one who controls unstable->testing. > Gnome 1 is kept in testing in any case until Gnome 2 is considered > ready. If you keep gnome1 in testing, you also maintain it there ? Maintaining it there is more work than maintaining it in unstable alongside gnome2 I guess. This is also a complete twist of testing's goal and system. >> I am very strongly opposed to any attempt to provide `incentives' for >> maintainers to do work in this way. Penalising our users, or making >> life difficult for ourselves, in order to `encourage' people to do >> something, is a very bad idea in a volunteer organisation. If >> something isn't being done that you want done, go and do it. Don't >> break things in an effort to force the issue. > > I'm sorry, but Gnome 2 won't wait until each uninteresting applet is > ported ... There are very interresting applets which don't work on gnome2 right now. You are not the one to judge what is interresting for everyone. > it's up to the applet developer to do the work, and maybe they will > do if they got complaints. If they don't, well the applet disappear, > that's life. Maybe they simply have no time to do it *right now*, because of work/hollidays/life/... Sending them lots of complaints won't help get the job done. (more probably even slow things down) <couic> -- R�mi
