"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/9/2 MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > "Would a licence that required me to give a copy of the source at my > > expense if I let someone use the application on my laptop meet the > > DFSG?" > > Why is this a question that matters for the AGPL? Are you saying that > the condition of distributing source over a network could be > prohibitively expensive?
This question matters if - as some claim - there is no longer a useful distinction between network and personal computing. The question is trying to apply the AGPL's network use/distribution clause to personal computing. If we accept that there is no distinction and that the AGPL is free, it seems very probable that someone will soon try a licence that behaves like the above and claim it's free software. I am wondering (I am undecided, remember) whether the condition of distributing source over a network has an unavoidable cost. I don't think the size of that cost is important. > Pleae correct me if I'm strawmanning you, but this is ridiculous. I'm not sure whether it's strawmanning me, but I feel it's a bit close to a personal attack. I've bared my thoughts and all I got was this lousy ridicule. > [...] Sure, if your site is slashdotted with source requests, that's > a problem, but this could happen just as well with the GPL as it it > could with the AGPL. [...] It doesn't necessarily happen with the GPL, thanks to the multiple choices in clause 6 and the possibility of choosing to use but not distribute. The AGPL source distribution condition is also an order of magnitude bigger than the GPL's: all users > all recipients. > I don't understand why embedded systems have anything to do with it. > You just have to put the code up somewhere on some network server if > you are distributing your application's interface over a network. The > server hosting the code doesn't even have to be your own, just put it > on Sourceforge or one of the zillions code hosting servers out there. I think then you have to make the embedded system phone home and check that the source source is still up before it offers network service. > I don't see a conflict with the dissident test either; [...] I'm not sure it does either, although I note that both Savannah and Sourceforge (for example) have terms that require one's real name. Which services allow anonymous hosting? Regards, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
