On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:08 AM, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > One's modification and distribution over a network of that software,
> > let's be explicit. And I argue that this extra cost is no greater than
> > the cost of providing the network interface that's triggering this
> > clause in the first place.
>
> I don't know about others, but I am charged for data transfer.


It has already been made clear that you're not required to distribute the
modified source on the same network connection as the remote interaction.

That those debating against the AGPLv3 on this thread have such a weak case
that they must argue that the cost to upload the source is burdomsome, given
the existing cost associated with hosting that software for remote
interaction and the cost of hardware to host it on, demonstrates to me that
this debate is over.


Yes, it's absurd to ensure cooperation!  The first point of the first
> principle of cooperation is "voluntary".
> http://www.ica.coop/coop/principles.html
>

Nobody is being forced to use the software, just as nobody is forced to
become a member of a cooperative.  Participation remains is voluntary.


How would that satisfy section 13?  A CD isn't a network server.


It doesn't, (s)he was mistaken.  Section 13 clearly reads that it must be
hosted on a network server.



> Don't forget hosting-users.  Tomorrow you might be paying for uploads.
>

Gladly, and I believe I already made a statement to the effect that we will
be paying for uploads for others modified versions.

The hosting cost is negligible.  What we care about is having the source
code available and that all users are made aware of it's availability.

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