On Wed, Oct 08, 2025 at 10:36:02PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> All,
> 
> Did we discuss this license?
> 
> https://github.com/EthicalSource/contributor_covenant/blob/release/LICENSE.md
> https://firstdonoharm.dev/version/3/0/core.txt
> 
> Quoting the core variant below for ease of review.  It looks challenging
> from a DFSG-perspective to me.
> 

Hi,

DEFINITELY non-DFSG

> The licenser builder on https://firstdonoharm.dev/build/ that will
> create custom opinionated variants of the license seems even more
> interesting.
> 
> /Simon
> 
> HIPPOCRATIC LICENSE
> 
> Version 3.0, October 2021
> 
> https://firstdonoharm.dev/version/3/0/core.txt
> 
> TERMS AND CONDITIONS
> 
> TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR USE, COPY, MODIFICATION, PREPARATION OF DERIVATIVE
> WORK, REPRODUCTION, AND DISTRIBUTION:
> 
> 1. DEFINITIONS:
> 
> This section defines certain terms used throughout this license agreement.
> 
> 1.1. “License” means the terms and conditions, as stated herein, for use, 
> copy,
> modification, preparation of derivative work, reproduction, and distribution 
> of
> Software (as defined below).
> 
> 1.2. “Licensor” means the copyright and/or patent owner or entity authorized 
> by
> the copyright and/or patent owner that is granting the License.
> 
> 1.3. “Licensee” means the individual or entity exercising permissions granted 
> by
> this License, including the use, copy, modification, preparation of derivative
> work, reproduction, and distribution of Software (as defined below).
> 
> 1.4. “Software” means any copyrighted work, including but not limited to
> software code, authored by Licensor and made available under this License.
> 
> 1.5. “Supply Chain” means the sequence of processes involved in the production
> and/or distribution of a commodity, good, or service offered by the Licensee.
> 
> 1.6. “Supply Chain Impacted Party” or “Supply Chain Impacted Parties” means 
> any
> person(s) directly impacted by any of Licensee’s Supply Chain, including the
> practices of all persons or entities within the Supply Chain prior to a good 
> or
> service reaching the Licensee.
> 

The next section is very Anglophone lawyerese.

> 1.7. “Duty of Care” is defined by its use in tort law, delict law, and/or
> similar bodies of law closely related to tort and/or delict law, including
> without limitation, a requirement to act with the watchfulness, attention,
> caution, and prudence that a reasonable person in the same or similar
> circumstances would use towards any Supply Chain Impacted Party.
> 

This is impossible to define watchfulness, attention and it is requiring
the person accepting this to behave in a certain way.

> 1.8. “Worker” is defined to include any and all permanent, temporary, and 
> agency
> workers, as well as piece-rate, salaried, hourly paid, legal young (minors),
> part-time, night, and migrant workers.
> 
> 2. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY GRANTS:
> 
> This section identifies intellectual property rights granted to a Licensee.
> 
> 2.1. Grant of Copyright License: Subject to the terms and conditions of this
> License, Licensor hereby grants to Licensee a worldwide, non-exclusive,
> no-charge, royalty-free copyright license to use, copy, modify, prepare
> derivative work, reproduce, or distribute the Software, Licensor authored
> modified software, or other work derived from the Software.
> 
> 2.2. Grant of Patent License: Subject to the terms and conditions of this
> License, Licensor hereby grants Licensee a worldwide, non-exclusive, 
> no-charge,
> royalty-free patent license to make, have made, use, offer to sell, sell,
> import, and otherwise transfer Software.
> 
> 3. ETHICAL STANDARDS:
> 
> This section lists conditions the Licensee must comply with in order to have
> rights under this License.
> 
> The rights granted to the Licensee by this License are expressly made subject 
> to
> the Licensee’s ongoing compliance with the following conditions:
> 
>  * 3.1. The Licensee SHALL NOT, whether directly or indirectly, through agents
>    or assigns:
>    

This demands perfect behaviour and rational buying. Indirectly - what happens
if your pension fund invests in something inappropriately ...


>    * 3.1.1. Infringe upon any person’s right to life or security of person,
>      engage in extrajudicial killings, or commit murder, without lawful cause
>      (See Article 3, United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights;
>      Article 6, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights)
>    
>    * 3.1.2. Hold any person in slavery, servitude, or forced labor (See 
> Article
>      4, United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights; Article 8,
>      International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights);
>    
>    * 3.1.3. Contribute to the institution of slavery, slave trading, forced
>      labor, or unlawful child labor (See Article 4, United Nations Universal
>      Declaration of Human Rights; Article 8, International Covenant on Civil 
> and
>      Political Rights);
>    
>    * 3.1.4. Torture or subject any person to cruel, inhumane, or degrading
>      treatment or punishment (See Article 5, United Nations Universal
>      Declaration of Human Rights; Article 7, International Covenant on Civil 
> and
>      Political Rights);
>    
>    * 3.1.5. Discriminate on the basis of sex, gender, sexual orientation, 
> race,
>      ethnicity, nationality, religion, caste, age, medical disability or
>      impairment, and/or any other like circumstances (See Article 7, United
>      Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights; Article 2, International
>      Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights; Article 26, 
> International
>      Covenant on Civil and Political Rights);
>    
>    * 3.1.6. Prevent any person from exercising his/her/their right to seek an
>      effective remedy by a competent court or national tribunal (including
>      domestic judicial systems, international courts, arbitration bodies, and
>      other adjudicating bodies) for actions violating the fundamental rights
>      granted to him/her/them by applicable constitutions, applicable laws, or 
> by
>      this License (See Article 8, United Nations Universal Declaration of 
> Human
>      Rights; Articles 9 and 14, International Covenant on Civil and Political
>      Rights);
>    
>    * 3.1.7. Subject any person to arbitrary arrest, detention, or exile (See
>      Article 9, United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights; Article 
> 9,
>      International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights);
>    
>    * 3.1.8. Subject any person to arbitrary interference with a person’s
>      privacy, family, home, or correspondence without the express written
>      consent of the person (See Article 12, United Nations Universal 
> Declaration
>      of Human Rights; Article 17, International Covenant on Civil and 
> Political
>      Rights);
>    
>    * 3.1.9. Arbitrarily deprive any person of his/her/their property (See
>      Article 17, United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights);
>    
>    * 3.1.10. Forcibly remove indigenous peoples from their lands or 
> territories
>      or take any action with the aim or effect of dispossessing indigenous
>      peoples from their lands, territories, or resources, including without
>      limitation the intellectual property or traditional knowledge of 
> indigenous
>      peoples, without the free, prior, and informed consent of indigenous
>      peoples concerned (See Articles 8 and 10, United Nations Declaration on 
> the
>      Rights of Indigenous Peoples);
>    
>    * 3.1.11. Interfere with Workers’ free exercise of the right to organize 
> and
>      associate (See Article 20, United Nations Universal Declaration of Human
>      Rights; C087 - Freedom of Association and Protection of the Right to
>      Organise Convention, 1948 (No. 87), International Labour Organization;
>      Article 8, International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural 
> Rights);
>      and
>    
>    * 3.1.12. Harm the environment in a manner inconsistent with local, state,
>      national, or international law.
> 
>  * 3.2. The Licensee SHALL:
>    
>    * 3.2.1. Provide equal pay for equal work where the performance of such 
> work
>      requires equal skill, effort, and responsibility, and which are performed
>      under similar working conditions, except where such payment is made
>      pursuant to:
>      
>      * 3.2.1.1. A seniority system;
>      
>      * 3.2.1.2. A merit system;
>      
>      * 3.2.1.3. A system which measures earnings by quantity or quality of
>        production; or
>      
>      * 3.2.1.4. A differential based on any other factor other than sex, 
> gender,
>        sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, caste, age,
>        medical disability or impairment, and/or any other like circumstances
>        (See 29 U.S.C.A. § 206(d)(1); Article 23, United Nations Universal
>        Declaration of Human Rights; Article 7, International Covenant on
>        Economic, Social and Cultural Rights; Article 26, International 
> Covenant
>        on Civil and Political Rights); and
>    
>    * 3.2.2. Allow for reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic
>      holidays with pay (See Article 24, United Nations Universal Declaration 
> of
>      Human Rights; Article 7, International Covenant on Economic, Social and
>      Cultural Rights).
> 
> 4. SUPPLY CHAIN IMPACTED PARTIES:
> 
> This section identifies additional individuals or entities that a Licensee 
> could
> harm as a result of violating the Ethical Standards section, the condition 
> that
> the Licensee must voluntarily accept a Duty of Care for those individuals or
> entities, and the right to a private right of action that those individuals or
> entities possess as a result of violations of the Ethical Standards section.
> 

must voluntarily ... this section should be void for uncertainty :)

> 4.1. In addition to the above Ethical Standards, Licensee voluntarily accepts 
> a
> Duty of Care for Supply Chain Impacted Parties of this License, including
> individuals and communities impacted by violations of the Ethical Standards. 
> The
> Duty of Care is breached when a provision within the Ethical Standards section
> is violated by a Licensee, one of its successors or assigns, or by an 
> individual
> or entity that exists within the Supply Chain prior to a good or service
> reaching the Licensee.
> 
> 4.2. Breaches of the Duty of Care, as stated within this section, shall 
> create a
> private right of action, allowing any Supply Chain Impacted Party harmed by 
> the
> Licensee to take legal action against the Licensee in accordance with 
> applicable
> negligence laws, whether they be in tort law, delict law, and/or similar 
> bodies
> of law closely related to tort and/or delict law, regardless if Licensee is
> directly responsible for the harms suffered by a Supply Chain Impacted Party.
> Nothing in this section shall be interpreted to include acts committed by
> individuals outside of the scope of his/her/their employment.
> 
> 5. NOTICE: This section explains when a Licensee must notify others of the
> License.
> 
> 5.1. Distribution of Notice: Licensee must ensure that everyone who receives a
> copy of or uses any part of Software from Licensee, with or without changes,
> also receives the License and the copyright notice included with Software (and
> if included by the Licensor, patent, trademark, and attribution notice).
> Licensee must ensure that License is prominently displayed so that any
> individual or entity seeking to download, copy, use, or otherwise receive any
> part of Software from Licensee is notified of this License and its terms and
> conditions. Licensee must cause any modified versions of the Software to carry
> prominent notices stating that Licensee changed the Software.
> 
> 5.2. Modified Software: Licensee is free to create modifications of the 
> Software
> and distribute only the modified portion created by Licensee, however, any
> derivative work stemming from the Software or its code must be distributed
> pursuant to this License, including this Notice provision.
> 
> 5.3. Recipients as Licensees: Any individual or entity that uses, copies,
> modifies, reproduces, distributes, or prepares derivative work based upon the
> Software, all or part of the Software’s code, or a derivative work developed 
> by
> using the Software, including a portion of its code, is a Licensee as defined
> above and is subject to the terms and conditions of this License.
> 
> 6. REPRESENTATIONS AND WARRANTIES:
> 
> 6.1. Disclaimer of Warranty: TO THE FULL EXTENT ALLOWED BY LAW, THIS SOFTWARE
> COMES “AS IS,” WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, AND LICENSOR SHALL 
> NOT
> BE LIABLE TO ANY PERSON OR ENTITY FOR ANY DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY ARISING
> FROM, OUT OF, OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THIS LICENSE, UNDER ANY
> LEGAL CLAIM.
> 
> 6.2. Limitation of Liability: LICENSEE SHALL HOLD LICENSOR HARMLESS AGAINST 
> ANY
> AND ALL CLAIMS, DEBTS, DUES, LIABILITIES, LIENS, CAUSES OF ACTION, DEMANDS,
> OBLIGATIONS, DISPUTES, DAMAGES, LOSSES, EXPENSES, ATTORNEYS’ FEES, COSTS,
> LIABILITIES, AND ALL OTHER CLAIMS OF EVERY KIND AND NATURE WHATSOEVER, WHETHER
> KNOWN OR UNKNOWN, ANTICIPATED OR UNANTICIPATED, FORESEEN OR UNFORESEEN, 
> ACCRUED
> OR UNACCRUED, DISCLOSED OR UNDISCLOSED, ARISING OUT OF OR RELATING TO 
> LICENSEE’S
> USE OF THE SOFTWARE. NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHOULD BE INTERPRETED TO REQUIRE
> LICENSEE TO INDEMNIFY LICENSOR, NOR REQUIRE LICENSOR TO INDEMNIFY LICENSEE.
> 
> 7. TERMINATION
> 
> 7.1. Violations of Ethical Standards or Breaching Duty of Care: If Licensee
> violates the Ethical Standards section or Licensee, or any other person or
> entity within the Supply Chain prior to a good or service reaching the 
> Licensee,
> breaches its Duty of Care to Supply Chain Impacted Parties, Licensee must 
> remedy
> the violation or harm caused by Licensee within 30 days of being notified of 
> the
> violation or harm. If Licensee fails to remedy the violation or harm within 30
> days, all rights in the Software granted to Licensee by License will be null 
> and
> void as between Licensor and Licensee.
> 
> 7.2. Failure of Notice: If any person or entity notifies Licensee in writing
> that Licensee has not complied with the Notice section of this License, 
> Licensee
> can keep this License by taking all practical steps to comply within 30 days
> after the notice of noncompliance. If Licensee does not do so, Licensee’s
> License (and all rights licensed hereunder) will end immediately.
> 
> 7.3. Judicial Findings: In the event Licensee is found by a civil, criminal,
> administrative, or other court of competent jurisdiction, or some other
> adjudicating body with legal authority, to have committed actions which are in
> violation of the Ethical Standards or Supply Chain Impacted Party sections of
> this License, all rights granted to Licensee by this License will terminate
> immediately.
> 
> 7.4. Patent Litigation: If Licensee institutes patent litigation against any
> entity (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a suit) alleging that the
> Software, all or part of the Software’s code, or a derivative work developed
> using the Software, including a portion of its code, constitutes direct or
> contributory patent infringement, then any patent license, along with all 
> other
> rights, granted to Licensee under this License will terminate as of the date
> such litigation is filed.
> 
> 7.5. Additional Remedies: Termination of the License by failing to remedy 
> harms
> in no way prevents Licensor or Supply Chain Impacted Party from seeking
> appropriate remedies at law or in equity.
> 
> 8. MISCELLANEOUS:
> 
> 8.1. Conditions: Sections 3, 4.1, 5.1, 5.2, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, and 7.4 are
> conditions of the rights granted to Licensee in the License.
> 
> 8.2. Equitable Relief: Licensor and any Supply Chain Impacted Party shall be
> entitled to equitable relief, including injunctive relief or specific
> performance of the terms hereof, in addition to any other remedy to which they
> are entitled at law or in equity.
> 
> 8.3. Severability: If any term or provision of this License is determined to 
> be
> invalid, illegal, or unenforceable by a court of competent jurisdiction, any
> such determination of invalidity, illegality, or unenforceability shall not
> affect any other term or provision of this License or invalidate or render
> unenforceable such term or provision in any other jurisdiction. If the
> determination of invalidity, illegality, or unenforceability by a court of
> competent jurisdiction pertains to the terms or provisions contained in the
> Ethical Standards section of this License, all rights in the Software granted 
> to
> Licensee shall be deemed null and void as between Licensor and Licensee.
> 
> 8.4. Section Titles: Section titles are solely written for organizational
> purposes and should not be used to interpret the language within each section.
> 
> 8.5. Citations: Citations are solely written to provide context for the source
> of the provisions in the Ethical Standards.
> 
> 8.6. Section Summaries: Some sections have a brief italicized description 
> which
> is provided for the sole purpose of briefly describing the section and should
> not be used to interpret the terms of the License.
> 
> 8.7. Entire License: This is the entire License between the Licensor and
> Licensee with respect to the claims released herein and that the consideration
> stated herein is the only consideration or compensation to be paid or 
> exchanged
> between them for this License. This License cannot be modified or amended 
> except
> in a writing signed by Licensor and Licensee.
> 
> 8.8. Successors and Assigns: This License shall be binding upon and inure to 
> the
> benefit of the Licensor’s and Licensee’s respective heirs, successors, and
> assigns.

Interesting - I can see someone who likes legal terminology and wants
everyone to "do the right thing" - but this licence is unusable within
Debian in my opionion. Not a qualifiedlawyer - but trained in law 40 years
ago :)

All best, as ever,

Andy Cater, LL.B (Hons)
([email protected])

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