On Tue 20 Jun 2023 at 03:13:17 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 6/20/23 00:20, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Why is it Gene thinks any trouble he has has anything to do with Wayland? > > XFCE > > doesn't run in Wayland. The only Wayland XFCE users must have is the > > foundation > > Wayland requires from Xorg, which no one can be rid of (nor need to), > > except by > > running an ancient distro from before Wayland support was stuffed into > > Xorg, or by > > running MacOS, BSD, OS/2, Unix or Windows. > > That needs a better explanation, Felix. As I see it, wayland can't run > as root, so no app that needs root works with wayland. Since package > managers with a gui need wayland, all the package managers that do > have a gui, are now dead except gnome packages, a poor but usable > substitute whose search function seems broken to me. The only way I've > found to run aptitude is as text with the safe-upgrade option turned > on, and this is well tested here on arm64's, but I still don't trust > it on x86, its gone wild with no way to stop it on x86, tearing down > the system to the point of having to re-install. I've run it on wintel > stuff maybe 12 times, but touching the g key has equaled a reinstall > every time. It does NOT preview what its going to do, it just does it. > 4 times now. That's why I asked if it had been tamed. Here's Gene with his "broken" aptitude: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/06/msg00516.html Of coures, ncurses has to be blamed too: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/06/msg00490.html while the problem seems to come down to running a TUI on a system where the TERM is incorrectly set, so you can't tell what any keystrokes are actually going to do after they've been mangled: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/06/msg00493.html I've no idea whether Gene has fixed this last problem over the past seven years, but obviously the scars have not yet healed. Cheers, David.
