Chris:

Scott addressed some of the RFC issues but we have found similar problems
with mail being generated from legitimate mailing lists, cold fusion
websites, and from FrontPage forms.  We have worked around some of the issue
of false positives by lowering the weights of some of the tests.  REVDNS
failure is so common that we dropped the weight to 3, the same with
BADHEADERS and SPAMHEADERS and we put our weight test at 10.  So with just
those 3 problems the mail will squeak by with a weight of 10.  Other test
like SPAMCOP (5) and ORDB (4) will trigger issues quicker.

I would like to hear more about what others are doing.  We are playing with
the weights to try to achieve ~90+ percent spam rejection and less than 1%
false positives.   The biggest cause of false positives is legitimate mail
from open relays - school district and government servers are the worst
offenders.

Comments please.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
www.warp8.com
303-421-5140

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Ulrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Problem with Symantec Act


: I have a customer who has not been able to send email through our system.
He
: was scoring a "17" on the spam scale.  Here's the relevant detail from the
log:
:
: 02/25/2002 13:23:37 Q811f28a BADHEADERS:8 REVDNS:4 SPAMHEADERS:5 .  Total
: weight = 17
: 02/25/2002 13:23:37 Q811f28a Msg failed BADHEADERS (This E-mail was sent
: from a broken mail client [c040020e].).
: 02/25/2002 13:23:37 Q811f28a Msg failed SPAMHEADERS (This E-mail has
: headers consistent with spam [c040020e].).
: 02/25/2002 13:23:37 Q811f28a Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 17 exceeds the
: limit of 10.).
: 02/25/2002 13:23:37 Q811f28a Msg failed WEIGHT17 (Weight of 17 exceeds the
: limit of 17.).
: 02/25/2002 13:23:37 Q811f28a Subject: test
: 02/25/2002 13:23:37 Q811f28a Message FAILED: Deleting message!
:
: Well, we determined that the person sending messages was using
: Symantec's ACT program's internal email client, and that it does not meet
: the criteria set out by Declude.
:
: I'm sure they are not the only person using Act.
:
: Has anyone seen a way around this?  I don't want to raise our threshold to
: something like "18", as that will let in a flood of SPAM that is currently
: being blocked.
: However, ACT (and Maximizer, another CRM system) are widely used and need
: to work properly.
:
: Any thoughts?
:
: Thanks
:
: Chris
:
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