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John,

Why don't you keep this on a professional level and keep your snide little comments to yourself?

I manage 4 ISP's John with revenues over 5 million a year. Declude is a godsend to us as some over our clients have been receiving over 200 spam emails a day to a single POP account. If you are blacklisted, you are there for a reason. Either your server allows relay or you are not RFC compliant. Either way, in 99% of the cases, the mail server implementation is broken and should not be running in production. Trust me when I say that they find out VERY quickly that they can't send mail to half the world when they are violating spam AUPs. It is not my responsibility to baby sit those people or tell them how to run their mail servers. They will have to learn the hard way that spam is unacceptable and won't be tolerated on most networks.

Spam is a huge issue that costs ISPs millions in man-hours and bandwidth.  We do not tolerate blacklisted SMTP servers, period.
And yes... I would love to have the revenues of AOL, RoadRunner, SBC or PacBell. They all delete blacklisted mail and report the issue back to the sending ISPs via logging (which is totally acceptable). A good email admin would simply need to investigate his logs to find out why their mail is rejected around half the planet. If more ISPs took a hard line on spam, there would not be the huge problem that it is today.

Regards,

Phillip B. Holmes
Media Resolutions Inc.
Macromedia Alliance Partner
http://www.mediares.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 12:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Should postmaster or abuse accept all e-mail?


>If you have earned a place on the blacklists, you wont be sending mail
to my networks.

Oh wait, I get it, he wants to be AOL.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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