Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Topica and SBL

[Matt]

Bill, If this stuff comes from the same IP, both good and bad, then how do you tell it apart?  Do you merely rely on content filters? Their servers send lots of spam and they are well aware of the problems.  When you combine their semi-legit business with the fact that they are spamming openly from 10 or more different address blocks, and they use 100's of domains, I think the right thing to do becomes obvious.  I'm sure that this is what led SBL to finally list them. The fact is that if I was knowingly selling bulk mail services to spammers from my own server as well as sending personal E-mail from it, you would be justified in blocking me.  Topica's practices will probably end up converting their service over to virtually all spam over time, because legit senders will find their service to be a poor choice based on their business practices. The bottom line remains, Topica is a spam house, and on their supposed legit service, they maintain relationships with known spammers despite abuse reports.  They are leaving us with no choice, because they left us with no good way to differentiate.  Topica is a bad, bad company. Matt Bill Landry wrote: Wow, what does any of this have to do with delivering legitimate messages rather than deleting them?  I do not intentionally deliver spam from any source, including these - but I do deliver the legitimate messages sent from any source (ah, the true benefits of a spam weighting system).  You, on the other hand, summarily delete anything that may come from a source of spam, whether the message is legitimate or not.  I simply do not understand this philosophy, nor that you would argue in favor of it.   Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Topica and SBL This took actual research to figure out :)  Topica is absolutely a spam house, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them populating their database with addresses and list demographics from Topica.com.  Many of the lists that Topica sends out are auto-subscribed to by a bot that they operate, so they are merely re-distributing much of the content. -- ===================================================== MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =====================================================