Hmmm...different people will probably prefer different solutions, but you
can make arguments both ways as to which is "easier."

Scenario 1:
- Send the user a summary email of held messages that they can click on to
requeue.
- Since they may not have enough info from the summary email, they may click
to have messages delivered which really are spam
- Since they have no control over whitelisting senders this way, they will
have to either (1) repeatedly click to have the messages from the user
requeued or (2) notify you to adjust filters to let those messages through.

Scenario 2:
- User logs into Webmail and review held messages in their junkmail folder.
At the folder listing level the user sees the same info as your summary
mail.
- User clicks on questionable email to review.  If it is spam, they ignore
it.  If it is legit, they can quickly and easily add the user to their
address book for auto-whitelist so they don't have to search for that email
anymore.

So the trade-off here is that with (1) the user has to continually requeue
emails from a sender that fails filtering tests, while with (2), the user
has to log into WebMail periodically to check for filtered mail, but can
whitelist senders to avoid future filtering of those emails.

Personally, I think (2) is preferable as it avoids repeated rework.
However, we still manually review the hold queue for most of our users,
which they gladly pay extra for to keep from having to touch it at all.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Automated requeuing


Simpler for me, not them, though.  I'm the one that understands how to
do the complicated stuff, not them, so I believe I should be the one
doing the complicated stuff to make it as easy for them as possible.

I don't just want to move their spam to another folder because then they
still have to go through their spam.  With an automated solution as
described below, they only have to scan through one email.  Frankly, the
reason we bought Declude is to keep this stuff OUT of their mailbox, not
to just make them read it in a different folder, or online.  I also
don't have confuse them more by making them check mail in one place
(Outlook) and spam in another (Webmail).



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Automated requeuing

It would be much simpler to route the held mail to a junkmail mailbox,
and have the users use WebMail to check it.  As an added benefit, they
can whitelist senders there by adding them to their contact list in
WebMail.

It does require Declude Pro, however, to use the ROUTE action.

Darin.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Automated requeuing


I know from reading the list that some of you have set up your own
automated systems that notify your users of held messages and allow them
to requeue them automatically.  I am hoping that one or more of you
might be willing to offer guidance and help me set up such a system on
my network.

Here's how I think it works:

A scheduled task fires up and runs a program (batch file?, vbscript?,
perl?) that looks through the hold directory, parses the Q and/or D
files to find addressee, mailfrom and subject.  Script then sends an
email to each user that has held email in the queue.  The email it sends
contains a list of all that user's held emails, along with a link for
each one that will re-queue the email somehow.

If anyone can provide sample scripts and/or a how-to, I'd be much
appreciative.

Thanks,

Dan Horne

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