Hi Dave,

I know what you mean.  After the first startup venture in the late 90's,
holidays have never been the same...

You might try running the 2.06 version for SmarterMail.  I've heard mostly
success for that.  That may buy you some time until the kinks get worked out
of the 3.0 beta.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 10:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude bugs and problems with smartermail


Darin,

Ever since I started working out of a home office I do forget about the
holidays!

Well, the "good news" is that I've made some progress in understanding the
problem.

As long as I don't specify a "HOLD" action (EG. WEIGHT30 HOLD %DATE%) and
instead run with (WEIGHT30 SUBJECT [SPAM]) then Declude will at least
process MOST of the incoming email.

When I tell Declude to hold email above a certain weight, it falls all over
itself with problems.  I'm seeing messages in the logs about attempts to
move non-existent files.  I see paths for these files having spaces or
double slashes in the path names which are obvious programming errors.  I'm
half tempted to edit the Declude.exe file with a hex editor and fix the path
problems myself.  But there are some logic problems too so there is no
point.

I hate the thought of running for 3 days not being able to block ANY spam at
all.  But what are you going to do?  At least I can tag the majority of the
spam.








> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 8:15 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude bugs and problems with smartermail
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Probably not... Monday's Labor Day.  Easy to forget those little things
> called holidays, isn't it? <grin>
>
> Darin.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 7:42 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude bugs and problems with smartermail
>
>
> Gary,
>
> Yeah, that sounds exactly like what is happening and I see messages in the
> log, as well, that supports what you're saying.
>
> Hopefully Declude support will be around on Monday and maybe we can work
> on
> getting that one solved.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
> > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 5:51 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude bugs and problems with
> smartermail
> >
> > Regarding #5.  I've run into spam that was sent to multiple addresses on
> > the server, and the spam was processed by Declude (it's listed in the
> log
> > files), but somehow when this spam is then moved to the hold directory
> it
> > gets confused and somehow loses track of the file, and the file doesn't
> > end up in the hold directory (you see an error message about this in the
> > log file).  It gets delivered, but without any Declude processing
> messages
> > in the header.
> >
> >
> >  -------- Original Message --------
> > > From: "Dave Beckstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:01 PM
> > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude bugs and problems  with
> smartermail
> > >
> > > I've found a few Declude bugs and other problems when running in the
> > > smartermail environment.
> > >
> > > 1) Declude leaves directories with names such as 6432144091.vir in the
> > > SPOOL/PROC overflow directory and it NEVER goes back and removes these
> > > directories or cleans them up.  I have to manually delete the .vir
> > > directories.
> > >
> > > 2) Orphaned files.  I have found files in the SPOOL/PROC directory
> where
> > the
> > > .EML extension has been renamed to .EM$ and there is no matching .HDR
> > file.
> > > These stay until I delete the orphans.   I currently have a file in my
> > SPOOL
> > > directory called X6432144091.EML with no matching .HDR file - which
> > means
> > > its an orphan file too.
> > >
> > > 3) The PROC overflow directory is being populated with files even when
> > the
> > > server is under very low utilization.  This, in my opinion, portends
> > major
> > > performance problems ahead of us when the server is under a high load.
> > I
> > > don't see any tuning parameters available which allow me to tweak
> under
> > what
> > > circumstances the PROC directory is utilized.  I have a dual processor
> > > server with 2 gig of RAM on it and I should not be forced to the same
> > > limitations as someone with a single processor server.  This process
> > needs
> > > to be tunable.
> > >
> > > 4) This morning I had about 100 files in the SPOOL/PROC directory.  I
> > had to
> > > manually copy them to the SPOOL directory for processing.  Once I
> moved
> > > them, the new files being placed into the PROC directory would
> > automatically
> > > move back to the SPOOL directory for processing.  So it appears that
> > there
> > > is some situation where Declude forgets about some files in the
> > SPOOL/PROC
> > > directory and never goes back and moves them back to the SPOOL.  I can
> > set
> > > up a script to do this (and delete the .vir folders too) every 15
> > minutes
> > > but I shouldn't have to do that.
> > >
> > > 5) This morning I had 45 spam emails in my in-box that had no header
> > records
> > > indicating that they were ever processed by Declude.  Apparently there
> > is
> > > some situation where Declude doesn't process messages.  I haven't yet
> > > figured out how or why this may be happening.  I'll do more research
> to
> > see
> > > what I can find.
> > >
> > > I am hoping that support will get with me ASAP and that together we
> can
> > > identify the cause of these problems and make some enhancements to
> > Declude
> > > which will make it more smartemail friendly.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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