Hello Dario,

Perhaps whoever buys Delphi/Kylix might move to the Mac.
I suppose the graphics libraries might require a lot of work.
It's a smaller market than for the PC so it might not work economically.
I do not work on the Mac, though I am thinking to get some experience:
if it had Delphi, I would find it an easy move;

My problem is that in Milan, Delphi is not much used (from now on this will
probably get worse);
I have had bad problems with Delphi in the past: its dbexpress driver for
Oracle
was unusable for two years (Delphi 6) without third party drivers
and the problem only resolved with Delphi 7
(for Delphi 6 they never sorted it out);

The Delphi 8 and Delphi2005 interfaces were very unstable:
I'm not surprised that Delphi is in trouble;

>From a work point of view, I am moving towards C#, C++ or Java;
I suppose that C# or Java might be the best for Macintosh.
What is your opinion?

>From a professional point of view, I have given up on Delphi except for
maintenance of old programs and reengineering to another language:

I could not honestly reccomend Delphi to a client for a new project,
even if it is personally my preferred tool:

- on Windows it can't compete for general use with VisualStudio/DotNet or
Java:
- it's too expensive, though if Delphi disappears, Microsoft will be able to
increase its costs.
- Borlands recent policy decisions do not inspire (Inprise) confidence.
- most client management in Italy have never heard of Borland, though they
know who Microsoft is;
- it might work for a year, but what happens in 5 years?

It would be strong at making small executables (VCL) without the .Net
libraries, but for most clients this is unimportant;

Kevin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dario Guerrero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [delphi-en] Anybody want to buy Delphi, C++Builder, C# Builder,
JBuilder?


> Hi Kevin,
>
> I'm a mac user (and programmer) since 1992, in 1997 I started using
> delphi in the pc world, since then, every year ;),  I have asked
> borland about their plans of porting delphi to the mac, but they
> always have told me that they don't have any plan to do it.
>
> Now they have it easier than ever before because of the apple's change
> to intel architecture, but it seems that they aren't very interested.
> It would be nice to have a good visual tool in mac, (RealBasic isn't
> as robust as delphi).
>
> 2006/2/8, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > These products won't sell in Italy in any case: Delphi has been dead on
its
> > feet here for years;
> > The future here seems to be in Java/VisualStudio and there is a glut of
> > underpaid programmers just out of college;
> > It seems that nobody is paying much for IDE tools either,
therefore........
> > I had hoped that Delphi/Kylix might have moved over to Macintosh.
> > I'm off to Ireland!!! (A spot of Delphi to C#/DotNet conversion perhaps,
> > monsieur?)
> >
> > Kevin O'Neill
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 2:11 AM
> > Subject: [delphi-en] Anybody want to buy Delphi, C++Builder, C# Builder,
> > JBuilder?
> >
> >
> > > Because Borland is selling these product lines off...as of today
> > >
> > >
> >
http://www.borland.com/us/company/news/Tod_Nielsen_customer_shareholder_lett
er_02-08-06.html
> > >
> > > "In addition, Borland announced today that we will be divesting our
IDE
> > > product lines, driving even tighter focus on the ALM market. These
product
> > > lines include our award-winning Borland Developer Studio (Delphi, C++
> > > Builder and C# Builder) and JBuilder. Our intent is to create a
standalone
> > > business focused on the IDE market, capable of investing in the
> > > opportunities that exist for these product lines and advancing
developer
> > > productivity. Borland's IDE business requires a distinct business
model
> > and
> > > focused investments different from our ALM business, which targets the
> > > broader software delivery organization. We believe that separating
these
> > > businesses will enable both to flourish and grow more aggressively
through
> > > targeted focus and investment. It goes without saying that we will do
> > > everything possible to ensure a successful transition of our products
and
> > > customers to the new entity."
> > >
> > > David Bolton
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>
> --
> un saludo
>
> Dario Guerrero
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