Dnia sobota, 11 lutego 2006 19:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: > Hello, Hi,
> I have tried out Lazarus on Windows: it seems okay, but my problem is to > work in a professional context: > I need to work on a platform that is used by clients already, not that I > propose: I haven't > seen anybody looking for a professional Lazarus programmer! No, but I have seen a couple for Delphi programmer. and as the code base is practically the same... :) > Delphi would be fine but nobody is using it in a professional context: > I don't want to move to Mac and use a tool which nobody is using; > Java is multiplatform, not as good as Delphi/Pascal but it is widely used > and the tools can be Free; Have you considered how much system resources JavaVM uses? And remember: your clients would have to have JavaVM installed to run your programs! With FPC/Lazarus you just compile your app for a specified OS/Architecture and it's done and ready for deployment. No VM needed. > I have been using Oracle with many clients: how is the Mac setup for this > with Lazarus/Pascal? Frankly - I don't know. Try Lazarus forums, Databases section. http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org > I do industrial interfacing (parallel, serial and ethernet port), and would > have to be able to do this also on the Mac. There is a project called Synapse and another (SynaSSR? Can't remember the name of this one) that enable low-level hardware access. Should you be interested in game/3d programming, you've got GLScene and JediSDL to help you. And remember - those are platform-independant! (I am using Synapse and CurlPas in my two projects, apps run on Linux and Windows without modifying the code). > The more I think about it, the greatest defect that Delphi has is that it > is not really multiplatform: it was never really viable on Linux, > and is now not really viable for Windows; if Delphi's new owner limits the > product to Windows, I think it will not survive: Well, did I mention FPC and Lazarus are multiplatform? Er, right. I did. ;) > if it becomes truly > multilanguage (Pascal/C++/Java/DotNet/AspNet with perhaps PHP and Basic or > language plugins) and truly multiplatform (PC/Mac/Unix-like) it could > survive, though it might no longer be recognizable. The ideal would be a > unified core structure with IDE plugins, OOP Language plugins and Compiler > plugins, the whole thing being modifiable for any OS, programming language > or desiner interface Try the Eclipse project. That might be something you are looking for. http://sourceforge.net - somewhere here, or just google for it. > Such a structure would only be possible to develop in a non commercial > context (open source?), since it would be contrary to any commercial > companies interests! Probably a similar system will evolve on Linux and may > render a commercially produced system obsolete, but it will require a long > time I think; Nope. Eclipse isready and working, AFAIK. Right now. > The Multilanguage/Multiplatform approach would be excellent since it would > become the only serious tool for all platforms, and could not be dictated > to by any market leader (naming no names!!): Microsoft is unlikely to make > a multiplatform version of its development tools and would remain > sectorial. I presume that the real future of computing will lie in > Intranet/Webservices where the client operating system (any Browser will > do) will not matter and that the real work would be done by the OS on the > server; Erm... Eclipse? ;) > One possibility might be if Delphi became Open Source (like > Interbase/Firebird) which would at least make it available for any > compiler. Perhaps this could be Borland's parting shot to the IDE world, > even though I realise that to expect such an altruistic gesture is a little > naive. I presume that Borland's decision will have a motive based on > commercial reasons and market strategy. Erm... Lazarus?.. > I think that this thread is productive, since I am finding it very > difficult to know where to go in Delphi's current situation, > and I would appreciate hearing other opinions on the subject, > Kevin O'Neill Just test those two I mentioned, that might be a good start. Mono is another - .Net framework, but OpenSource and Cross-Platform. Can't remember the webpage, just google for "Mono" or "MonoDevelop". Cheers mike ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------- Home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/ To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
