I'm really not sold on the VCLX project. I will concede that my attitude is in part based on my memory of the Kylux and .NET disasters which were admittedly with Borland rather than Embarcadero. However I just don't see that it is possible to produce a really excellent cross platform version of Delphi in 18 months. Maybe by VCLX version 2 or 3 it will be reasonable but even then my understanding is that most existing development projects (ie any using significant GUIs with third party components, such as ours) will have no chance of moving to the cross platform VCLX.
We don't have any real need for 64 bit compilation either yet BUT at least it seems like a logical progression of core Delphi and is something we will definitely want in the future. VCLX seems like a massive detour (yet another VCL version!) and a likely waste of resources rather than an improvement to core functionality. >From what Malcolm says though I'm in the minority. I'm surprised but it wouldn't be the first time ;-). I guess we will see how it pans out. David. From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of John Bird Sent: Wednesday, 14 October 2009 2:12 p.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: [DUG] Presentation in Christchurch - any other meetings in Chch? I went to the Auckland one, and had been hoping to make it to Christchurch too as I had also business to do there this week. Alas detained by a cars fuel pump giving out in Auckland. Was really hoping to put faces to some of the Christchurch Delphi names. (And hey I am also looking for extra work!) Is there any user group meetings/other meetings in Chch coming up? I also really appreciated the event, and look forwards to more: -It looks like Embarcaero are on a good track with the number of programmers working on Delphi (doubled from Borland/Codegear days - although I don't know how many of them are experienced ex Borland/Codegear programmers ) -The VCLX project for native compiling for Apple and Linux has got to be one of the best things out there in software land. Speaking as a programmer who likes sticking to the standard VCL and getting the most mileage out of it (for reasons of cost, ease of upgrade, and using the free XP/Vista themes rather than fancy components), I am excited about the possibility of being able to port programs for linux and OSX. And down the track iPhone and Android, which are the logical extensions of those and have to be the great areas of growth in coming years. -A lot of what is in Delpi 2010 is very logical refinement. Looks worth buting for the F6 IDE insight alone. -I quizzed Malcolm on whether something like the Turbo/free/cheap versions might return for students and non-commercial development. He said they are seriously thinking about how to do it as a PR for Delphi - theres the balance of making it full featured but still cannot do real commercial software that they are debating still. (Thinks) I see Microsoft is starting to think of 128 bit development for Windows 8 and 9. In Delphi land is there likely to be an extension to int64, as there are some integer numbers I could use that are larger (its around 18 digits decimal). Time for int128? John
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