Re: [DUG] Skill shortage?

[Kyley Harris]

Meeting deadlines in itself is a very bad measure. Too often have I seen people "Meet the deadline" but the cost of ownership because 4 times what it should have because of implementation. It's good to have someone that can assess the time of a job based on their own limitations, (and be accurate to +/- 25% :D ) Everyone has different styles of development. Neven has his own framework, I also have a framework for my applications, and many others. When hiring anyone I would be looking for people that can follow instructions well, don't go off on a tangent, and code consistently to the standard requested by the employer (including syntax layout, as well as just how to do the job) I would also be wanting staff that can see the potential pit falls of a design and offer suggestions to improve or enhance the work they should be doing (This is different from the employee "knowing" his way is better and doing it without telling, which ends up costing lots of money later), ie Forward Thinking rather than a human typewriter with Delphi Syntax skills. Lastly, someone who doesn't leave the job deciding that all the ideas you left him with would be a great idea for a new competing product :) David Brennan wrote: What do you mean? An excellent programmer = 2.5 good programmers = 10 mediocre programmers = infinite number of poor programmers Something like that? Or are you meaning how do you identify a good programmer? -----Original Message----- Secondly, how do employers rate a good programmer? David O'Brien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Neven MacEwan Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 2:07 p.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Skill shortage? David This is exactly my point, .Net was a reaction to Java, XAML is reactive to XUL, Freedom to inovate, bullshit, I also find in hilarious that people who buy into the M$ justify it on the consistency of supply where recent history would indicate the opposite What I love about OS dev products is changes are total demand driven with no subtext n David Brennan wrote: It is a danger with .NET. Compare with Internet Explorer. IE got mega bucks thrown at it by Microsoft because they perceived a threat that Netscape could eventually provide an alternative to the Windows platform by having a multi-platform rich interface web browser. Once Microsoft had strangled Netscape and ensure market dominance they suddenly killed IE development. Almost all of the new technologies which had been under development for a richer browser environment were effectively put on hold at the same time... which was probably Microsoft's plan from the start. I see some parallels here. Java was getting too much popularity behind it and it's cross platform nature and rich interface potential was/is a serious threat. So .NET is unleashed upon the world. The difference is that Java isn't likely to die like Netscape did. So Microsoft may end up having to push .NET as their long term solution rather than just using it for a single battle. Only time will tell I guess. David.-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Neven MacEwan Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 1:06 p.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Skill shortage? RE: There are some big shops still using as far as I can tell, but a lot have moved to .NET over the last 2 years. Now that M$ have sucessfully used .net to restrict Java in the middleware area, will they focus on the UI again and push XAML In which case these guys will have to move again bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah..

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