Nah, Sun must be stoked at the number of future Java developers getting trained by m$ (is there even a Java equivalent of MSDN?) And m$ have basically committed to killing dotnet with that whole xaml thing in the future (though it won't look like that when they announce it - if it ever does eventuate).
Meanwhile everyone just keeps building better (for various meanings of 'better') web apps. Cheers, Kurt. on Friday, 15 July 2005 2:07 p.m. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > David > > This is exactly my point, .Net was a reaction to Java, XAML > is reactive > to XUL, Freedom to inovate, bullshit, I also find in hilarious that > people who buy into the M$ justify it on the consistency of > supply where > recent history would indicate the opposite > > What I love about OS dev products is changes are total demand driven > with no subtext > > n > > > David Brennan wrote: >> It is a danger with .NET. Compare with Internet Explorer. IE got >> mega bucks thrown at it by Microsoft because they perceived a threat >> that Netscape could eventually provide an alternative to the Windows >> platform by having a multi-platform rich interface web browser. >> >> Once Microsoft had strangled Netscape and ensure market dominance >> they suddenly killed IE development. Almost all of the new >> technologies which had been under development for a richer browser >> environment were effectively put on hold at the same time... which >> was probably Microsoft's plan from the start. >> >> I see some parallels here. Java was getting too much popularity >> behind it and it's cross platform nature and rich interface >> potential was/is a serious threat. So .NET is unleashed upon the >> world. >> >> The difference is that Java isn't likely to die like Netscape did. So >> Microsoft may end up having to push .NET as their long term solution >> rather than just using it for a single battle. Only time will tell I >> guess. >> >> David.-----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Neven MacEwan >> Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 1:06 p.m. >> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List >> Subject: Re: [DUG] Skill shortage? >> >> RE: >> >> >>> There are some big shops still using as far as I can tell, but a >>> lot have moved to .NET over the last 2 years. >> >> >> Now that M$ have sucessfully used .net to restrict Java in the >> middleware area, will they focus on the UI again and push XAML >> >> In which case these guys will have to move again >> >> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, >> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, >> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, >> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, >> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah.. -- This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential and intended for the named recipient's use only. If you are not the intended recipient (i) do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way, (ii) please let us know by return email immediately then destroy the message, and any hard copies of the message, and any attachments. The sender of this message is not responsible for any changes made to this message and/or any attachments and/or connection linkages to the Internet referred to in this message after it has been sent. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message and/or attachments is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to buy or sell securities or derivatives at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to separate formal written notification. Where reference is made to research material and/or research recommendations, the basis of the provision of such research material and/or recommendations is set out in the relevant disclaimer. _______________________________________________ Delphi mailing list [email protected] http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi
