You're forgiven... but only because it's Friday afternoon ;-).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Comb
Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 4:30 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Skill shortage?

would generally fail part two :) Sorry Dave but had to say it.

Matt.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy Coulter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG] Skill shortage?


> Personally, I identify a good programmer by......   LOOKING IN THE MIRROR
> ......hahahaaha...well someone had to say it :-) :-)
>
> Jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On
> Behalf Of David O'Brien
> Sent: 15 July 2005 16:10
> To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
> Subject: RE: [DUG] Skill shortage?
>
> How do you identify a good programmer.
>
> David O'Brien
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On
> Behalf Of David Brennan
> Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 4:05 p.m.
> To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
> Subject: RE: [DUG] Skill shortage?
>
> What do you mean?
>
> An excellent programmer = 2.5 good programmers = 10 mediocre programmers =
> infinite number of poor programmers
>
> Something like that? Or are you meaning how do you identify a good
> programmer?
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Secondly, how do employers rate a good programmer?
>
> David O'Brien
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On
> Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
> Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 2:07 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Skill shortage?
>
> David
>
> This is exactly my point, .Net was a reaction to Java, XAML is reactive to
> XUL, Freedom to inovate, bullshit, I also find in hilarious that people 
> who
> buy into the M$ justify it on the consistency of supply where recent 
> history
> would indicate the opposite
>
> What I love about OS dev products is changes are total demand driven with 
> no
> subtext
>
> n
>
>
> David Brennan wrote:
>> It is a danger with .NET. Compare with Internet Explorer. IE got mega
> bucks
>> thrown at it by Microsoft because they perceived a threat that
>> Netscape could eventually provide an alternative to the Windows
>> platform by having
> a
>> multi-platform rich interface web browser.
>>
>> Once Microsoft had strangled Netscape and ensure market dominance they
>> suddenly killed IE development. Almost all of the new technologies
>> which
> had
>> been under development for a richer browser environment were
>> effectively
> put
>> on hold at the same time... which was probably Microsoft's plan from
>> the start.
>>
>> I see some parallels here. Java was getting too much popularity behind
>> it and it's cross platform nature and rich interface potential was/is
>> a
> serious
>> threat. So .NET is unleashed upon the world.
>>
>> The difference is that Java isn't likely to die like Netscape did. So
>> Microsoft may end up having to push .NET as their long term solution
> rather
>> than just using it for a single battle. Only time will tell I guess.
>>
>> David.-----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
>> Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
>> Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 1:06 p.m.
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Skill shortage?
>>
>> RE:
>>
>>
>>>There are some big shops still using as far as I can tell, but a lot
>>>have moved to .NET over the last 2 years.
>>
>>
>> Now that M$ have sucessfully used .net to restrict Java in the
>> middleware area, will they focus on the UI again and push XAML
>>
>> In which case these guys will have to move again
>>
>> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
>> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
>> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
>> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
>> bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah..
>>
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