this is not a Art program.  but I see what you mean, palates are grate.  I
am working on a new UI right now, and will be uploading my ideas in a few
days... or maybe tomorrow.  hope to get some feed back from everyone.

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Christopher Lee
<[email protected]>wrote:

> > I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this.
> > but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand.
> > probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole
> thing.
> Definitely. I don't see dropdown lists as being an ideal means of picking a
> color for a multitude of reasons. 1) There are a lot of colors, and
> scrolling through a long list is tedious. 2) You can only see a small
> selection at any given time, making it harder to compare two colors. 3) It's
> difficult to guess where the colors are, as they're in no real logical order
> for the end user. 4) Lack of customization. 5) It's just not the right
> interface. Art programs use palates for a reason.
>
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> On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote:
>
> > I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this.
> > but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand.
> > probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole
> thing.
> >
> > For all the user cares, a simplified image just showing the page, the
> > > general toolbar area, and so on would probably be sufficient
> >
> >
> > I think that this is a good idea we could make different pages for what
> > colors the user is choosing at that time. so when the user is choosing
> the
> > page Header and page Footer it shows them what they will look like.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Christopher Lee
> > <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think it would be that hard to do a preview-- you wouldn't even
> > > need to have it be completely representative. For all the user cares, a
> > > simplified image just showing the page, the general toolbar area, and
> so on
> > > would probably be sufficient-- and it would be no harder to implement
> than
> > > an apply button from a programming perspective (probably simpler,
> > > actually!). I'm not saying Apply is bad, but the dialogue for options
> right
> > > now is kind of huge, especially for tight screens.
> > >
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> > >
> > > On Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I like the idea that the colors and them be a "live preview" it
> will
> > > just
> > > > be some time before that is implemented it sounds complicated. but
> till
> > > > then I think that the Apply button will work nicely.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RGB ES <[email protected] (mailto:
> [email protected]) (mailto:
> > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]))> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 2011/7/15 Christopher Lee <[email protected] (mailto:
> [email protected]) (mailto:
> > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]))>:
> > > > > > Ricardo,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Already possible: Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Appearance →
> > > change
> > > > > > > "Application background" from "Default" to your preferred
> colour.
> > > If
> > > > > > > you need a different colour define a new one under Tool →
> Options →
> > > > > > > LibreOffice → Colors: your new colour will be available when
> you
> > > > > > > change the background.
> > > > > > It may already be possible, it's fairly deep in the menu trees
> for
> > > > > someone trying to do something simple. It's also not equipped with
> a
> > > live
> > > > > preview or any semblance of an attempt at matching color schemes,
> and
> > > the
> > > > > color picker is kind of dated/ugly (choose from a dropdown list? A
> > > color?
> > > > > Out of some forty or fifty sets? Not a good idea!). I think Alex is
> > > just
> > > > > suggesting that 1) We could change the default, which is sensible,
> and
> > > 2) At
> > > > > least make it more apparent.
> > > > >
> > > > > The whole LibO's colour management needs a rewrite, I think that
> > > > > everyone agrees with that. IMHO, without a proper way to select AND
> > > > > define colours, the "already possible" solution is the only
> possible
> > > > > answer... we can talk for hours on end about how
> > > > > difficult/deep/whatever the options are, but I think we need to
> > > > > discuss first of all about the colour palette: only then we will be
> > > > > able to discuss how to use those colours.
> > > > > For a "live preview" I think it is enough (1) to extend the "Apply"
> > > > > button we see on style management since 3.4 to the Option dialogue.
> > > > >
> > > > > (1) In the mathematical sense of the word: I have no idea how
> > > > > difficult it is to add the Apply button there, but I'm sure it is
> > > > > enough to solve the problem, so it is a "Sufficient condition"...
> :)
> > > > >
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