so what your saying is the the options are like my attached file. thats what I was confused about yesterday was I did not know where these options were coming from.
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Alex B <[email protected]> wrote: > > > i translated it, and added a screenshot of the old dialog, so you can see > what would be the changes. http://http://i.imgur.com/zhZSv.png > > the idea is, that you first select in general what you want to change > (General, HTML Document, Spreadsheet etc.) from the the drop down menu and > than you choose the specific part whom's color you want to change. > > so if you want to change the application background, you would select > "General" » "Application background". If you wan to change the color of the > keyword highlighting, you select "HTML Document" » "Keyword highlighting" > and select a color. > > A color-picker like this would also be nice for adding colors or other > color-dialogs in LibO, i think im going to create a wiki page about this > topic. > > > > ________________________________ > > > I pretty much got the what it said but if it will help other people who > read this. but it is not that hard to use translate. > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Christopher Lee > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > If needed, I can translate the text and reupload the image. My German's > > not > > fantastic but there's nothing out of my range on this screenie. > > > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Andrew Pullins <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > maybe like this? http://i.imgur.com/LHvxp.png > > > > > > > > > wow this is grate, I don't know what it all says but thank you Google > > > translate. so would you click the drop down bar that says Application > > > Backg... and choose things like page color, margin outline color ect. > > And > > > the general would be things like, Tool Bars, Headers, Footers, and > other > > > things. its better than what I was imagined when it was suggested. > > > > > > I think that the second option is good. It makes it so that you can > > select > > > exactly what you would want. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Christopher Lee > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Ich finde dass ziemlich super! Und deine Emglisch ist auch ganz gut. > > ;) > > > > > > > > Okay, now that we've established that my Grammatik is not up to > snuff, > > > your > > > > mockup looks really good. I'm not entirely sold on the second row > > > (General > > > > >> Application Background), but it's clear and useful. > > > > > > > > I am surprised that you didn't find it-- even in German, I found the > > > option > > > > relatively quickly. Then again, I had prior knowledge and some German > > to > > > > help. But the options dialogue as a whole could really use some > love. > > > > > > > > Christopher Lee > > > > Executive Director > > > > Champion Debate > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Alex B <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Since i'm using OOo/libO for almost 2 years now, and never found > the > > > > option to change the application background color, this can mean two > > > things: > > > > > > > > > > I. Something is wrong with me. > > > > > II. Something is wrong with the options dialog. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (in my defence, it's way harder to find in german, than in english) > > > > > > > > > > I took a deeper look at the options dialog and i must say, it's > quite > > > > confusing sometimes, but thats an other topic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think, the whole apperance options would be easier to use if: > > > > > > > > > > - The apperance dialog is more prominent. > > > > > - A view color schemes are included in the default installation. > > > > > - There is a small live-preview. > > > > > > > > > > maybe like this? http://i.imgur.com/LHvxp.png > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> And while I agree that it's not an art program, it's also fair to > > make > > > > this comparison considering how many colors are offered in the > > > LibreOffice > > > > options dialogue. We can deal with dropdown menus for changing font > > > colors > > > > since most people use a >limited selection anyway (of course, with a > > > Shore > > > > More . . . along the way), but there must be over a hundred offered > in > > > those > > > > dropdown lists. > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Christopher Lee > > > > >> Executive Director > > > > >> Champion Debate > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> this is not a Art program. but I see what you mean, palates are > > grate. > > > I > > > > >> am working on a new UI right now, and will be uploading my ideas > in > > a > > > > few > > > > >> days... or maybe tomorrow. hope to get some feed back from > everyone. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Christopher Lee > > > > >> <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected] > )>wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>>> I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I > > read > > > > this. > > > > >>>> but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to > > > understand. > > > > >>>> probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the > > hole > > > > >>> thing. > > > > >>> Definitely. I don't see dropdown lists as being an ideal means of > > > > picking a > > > > >>> color for a multitude of reasons. 1) There are a lot of colors, > and > > > > >>> scrolling through a long list is tedious. 2) You can only see a > > small > > > > >>> selection at any given time, making it harder to compare two > > colors. > > > 3) > > > > It's > > > > >>> difficult to guess where the colors are, as they're in no real > > > logical > > > > order > > > > >>> for the end user. 4) Lack of customization. 5) It's just not the > > > right > > > > >>> interface. Art programs use palates for a reason. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> Christopher Lee > > > > >>> Executive Director > > > > >>> Champion Debate > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I > > read > > > > this. > > > > >>>> but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to > > > understand. > > > > >>>> probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the > > hole > > > > >>> thing. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> For all the user cares, a simplified image just showing the > page, > > > the > > > > >>>>> general toolbar area, and so on would probably be sufficient > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I think that this is a good idea we could make different pages > for > > > > what > > > > >>>> colors the user is choosing at that time. so when the user is > > > choosing > > > > >>> the > > > > >>>> page Header and page Footer it shows them what they will look > > like. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Christopher Lee > > > > >>>> <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected] > > )>wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>>> I don't think it would be that hard to do a preview-- you > > wouldn't > > > > even > > > > >>>>> need to have it be completely representative. For all the user > > > cares, > > > > a > > > > >>>>> simplified image just showing the page, the general toolbar > area, > > > and > > > > >>> so on > > > > >>>>> would probably be sufficient-- and it would be no harder to > > > implement > > > > >>> than > > > > >>>>> an apply button from a programming perspective (probably > simpler, > > > > >>>>> actually!). I'm not saying Apply is bad, but the dialogue for > > > options > > > > >>> right > > > > >>>>> now is kind of huge, especially for tight screens. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> -- > > > > >>>>> Christopher Lee > > > > >>>>> Executive Director > > > > >>>>> Champion Debate > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> I like the idea that the colors and them be a "live preview" > it > > > > >>> will > > > > >>>>> just > > > > >>>>>> be some time before that is implemented it sounds complicated. > > but > > > > >>> till > > > > >>>>>> then I think that the Apply button will work nicely. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RGB ES <[email protected] > > > (mailto: > > > > [email protected]) (mailto: > > > > >>> [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) (mailto: > > > > >>>>> [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]))> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> 2011/7/15 Christopher Lee <[email protected] (mailto: > > > > [email protected]) (mailto: > > > > >>> [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) > > (mailto: > > > > >>>>> [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]))>: > > > > >>>>>>>> Ricardo, > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Already possible: Tools → Options → LibreOffice → > Appearance > > → > > > > >>>>> change > > > > >>>>>>>>> "Application background" from "Default" to your preferred > > > > >>> colour. > > > > >>>>> If > > > > >>>>>>>>> you need a different colour define a new one under Tool → > > > > >>> Options → > > > > >>>>>>>>> LibreOffice → Colors: your new colour will be available > when > > > > >>> you > > > > >>>>>>>>> change the background. > > > > >>>>>>>> It may already be possible, it's fairly deep in the menu > trees > > > > >>> for > > > > >>>>>>> someone trying to do something simple. It's also not equipped > > > with > > > > >>> a > > > > >>>>> live > > > > >>>>>>> preview or any semblance of an attempt at matching color > > schemes, > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>>> the > > > > >>>>>>> color picker is kind of dated/ugly (choose from a dropdown > > list? > > > A > > > > >>>>> color? > > > > >>>>>>> Out of some forty or fifty sets? Not a good idea!). I think > > Alex > > > is > > > > >>>>> just > > > > >>>>>>> suggesting that 1) We could change the default, which is > > > sensible, > > > > >>> and > > > > >>>>> 2) At > > > > >>>>>>> least make it more apparent. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> The whole LibO's colour management needs a rewrite, I think > > that > > > > >>>>>>> everyone agrees with that. IMHO, without a proper way to > select > > > AND > > > > >>>>>>> define colours, the "already possible" solution is the only > > > > >>> possible > > > > >>>>>>> answer... we can talk for hours on end about how > > > > >>>>>>> difficult/deep/whatever the options are, but I think we need > to > > > > >>>>>>> discuss first of all about the colour palette: only then we > > will > > > be > > > > >>>>>>> able to discuss how to use those colours. > > > > >>>>>>> For a "live preview" I think it is enough (1) to extend the > > > "Apply" > > > > >>>>>>> button we see on style management since 3.4 to the Option > > > dialogue. > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> (1) In the mathematical sense of the word: I have no idea how > > > > >>>>>>> difficult it is to add the Apply button there, but I'm sure > it > > is > > > > >>>>>>> enough to solve the problem, so it is a "Sufficient > > condition"... > > > > >>> :) > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > > >>>>>>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > > 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