> > maybe like this? http://i.imgur.com/LHvxp.png
wow this is grate, I don't know what it all says but thank you Google translate. so would you click the drop down bar that says Application Backg... and choose things like page color, margin outline color ect. And the general would be things like, Tool Bars, Headers, Footers, and other things. its better than what I was imagined when it was suggested. I think that the second option is good. It makes it so that you can select exactly what you would want. On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Christopher Lee <[email protected]>wrote: > Ich finde dass ziemlich super! Und deine Emglisch ist auch ganz gut. ;) > > Okay, now that we've established that my Grammatik is not up to snuff, your > mockup looks really good. I'm not entirely sold on the second row (General > >> Application Background), but it's clear and useful. > > I am surprised that you didn't find it-- even in German, I found the option > relatively quickly. Then again, I had prior knowledge and some German to > help. But the options dialogue as a whole could really use some love. > > Christopher Lee > Executive Director > Champion Debate > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Alex B <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Since i'm using OOo/libO for almost 2 years now, and never found the > option to change the application background color, this can mean two things: > > > > I. Something is wrong with me. > > II. Something is wrong with the options dialog. > > > > > > (in my defence, it's way harder to find in german, than in english) > > > > I took a deeper look at the options dialog and i must say, it's quite > confusing sometimes, but thats an other topic. > > > > > > I think, the whole apperance options would be easier to use if: > > > > - The apperance dialog is more prominent. > > - A view color schemes are included in the default installation. > > - There is a small live-preview. > > > > maybe like this? http://i.imgur.com/LHvxp.png > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > >> And while I agree that it's not an art program, it's also fair to make > this comparison considering how many colors are offered in the LibreOffice > options dialogue. We can deal with dropdown menus for changing font colors > since most people use a >limited selection anyway (of course, with a Shore > More . . . along the way), but there must be over a hundred offered in those > dropdown lists. > >> > >> -- > >> Christopher Lee > >> Executive Director > >> Champion Debate > >> > >> > >> On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > > > >> this is not a Art program. but I see what you mean, palates are grate. I > >> am working on a new UI right now, and will be uploading my ideas in a > few > >> days... or maybe tomorrow. hope to get some feed back from everyone. > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Christopher Lee > >> <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>wrote: > >> > >>>> I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read > this. > >>>> but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand. > >>>> probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole > >>> thing. > >>> Definitely. I don't see dropdown lists as being an ideal means of > picking a > >>> color for a multitude of reasons. 1) There are a lot of colors, and > >>> scrolling through a long list is tedious. 2) You can only see a small > >>> selection at any given time, making it harder to compare two colors. 3) > It's > >>> difficult to guess where the colors are, as they're in no real logical > order > >>> for the end user. 4) Lack of customization. 5) It's just not the right > >>> interface. Art programs use palates for a reason. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Christopher Lee > >>> Executive Director > >>> Champion Debate > >>> > >>> > >>> On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > >>> > >>>> I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read > this. > >>>> but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand. > >>>> probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole > >>> thing. > >>>> > >>>> For all the user cares, a simplified image just showing the page, the > >>>>> general toolbar area, and so on would probably be sufficient > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I think that this is a good idea we could make different pages for > what > >>>> colors the user is choosing at that time. so when the user is choosing > >>> the > >>>> page Header and page Footer it shows them what they will look like. > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Christopher Lee > >>>> <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I don't think it would be that hard to do a preview-- you wouldn't > even > >>>>> need to have it be completely representative. For all the user cares, > a > >>>>> simplified image just showing the page, the general toolbar area, and > >>> so on > >>>>> would probably be sufficient-- and it would be no harder to implement > >>> than > >>>>> an apply button from a programming perspective (probably simpler, > >>>>> actually!). I'm not saying Apply is bad, but the dialogue for options > >>> right > >>>>> now is kind of huge, especially for tight screens. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Christopher Lee > >>>>> Executive Director > >>>>> Champion Debate > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I like the idea that the colors and them be a "live preview" it > >>> will > >>>>> just > >>>>>> be some time before that is implemented it sounds complicated. but > >>> till > >>>>>> then I think that the Apply button will work nicely. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RGB ES <[email protected](mailto: > [email protected]) (mailto: > >>> [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) (mailto: > >>>>> [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]))> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> 2011/7/15 Christopher Lee <[email protected] (mailto: > [email protected]) (mailto: > >>> [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) (mailto: > >>>>> [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]))>: > >>>>>>>> Ricardo, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Already possible: Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Appearance → > >>>>> change > >>>>>>>>> "Application background" from "Default" to your preferred > >>> colour. > >>>>> If > >>>>>>>>> you need a different colour define a new one under Tool → > >>> Options → > >>>>>>>>> LibreOffice → Colors: your new colour will be available when > >>> you > >>>>>>>>> change the background. > >>>>>>>> It may already be possible, it's fairly deep in the menu trees > >>> for > >>>>>>> someone trying to do something simple. It's also not equipped with > >>> a > >>>>> live > >>>>>>> preview or any semblance of an attempt at matching color schemes, > >>> and > >>>>> the > >>>>>>> color picker is kind of dated/ugly (choose from a dropdown list? A > >>>>> color? > >>>>>>> Out of some forty or fifty sets? Not a good idea!). I think Alex is > >>>>> just > >>>>>>> suggesting that 1) We could change the default, which is sensible, > >>> and > >>>>> 2) At > >>>>>>> least make it more apparent. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The whole LibO's colour management needs a rewrite, I think that > >>>>>>> everyone agrees with that. IMHO, without a proper way to select AND > >>>>>>> define colours, the "already possible" solution is the only > >>> possible > >>>>>>> answer... we can talk for hours on end about how > >>>>>>> difficult/deep/whatever the options are, but I think we need to > >>>>>>> discuss first of all about the colour palette: only then we will be > >>>>>>> able to discuss how to use those colours. > >>>>>>> For a "live preview" I think it is enough (1) to extend the "Apply" > >>>>>>> button we see on style management since 3.4 to the Option dialogue. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> (1) In the mathematical sense of the word: I have no idea how > >>>>>>> difficult it is to add the Apply button there, but I'm sure it is > >>>>>>> enough to solve the problem, so it is a "Sufficient condition"... > >>> :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected]) (mailto: > >>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected]))(mailto: > >>>>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected]) (mailto: > >>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected]))) > >>>>>>> Posting guidelines + more: > >>>>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >>>>>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > >>>>>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > >>> be > >>>>>>> deleted > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected]) (mailto: > >>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected]))(mailto: > >>>>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected]) (mailto: > >>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected]))) > >>>>>> Posting guidelines + more: > >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >>>>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > >>>>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > >>> be > >>>>> deleted > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected])(mailto: > >>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected])) > >>>>> Posting guidelines + more: > >>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >>>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > >>>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > be > >>>>> deleted > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected])(mailto: > >>> [email protected] (mailto: > [email protected])) > >>>> Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >>>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > >>>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > >>> deleted > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >>> [email protected](mailto: > [email protected]) > >>> Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >>> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > >>> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > >>> deleted > >> > >> -- > >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > >> [email protected](mailto: > [email protected]) > >> Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
