Since i'm using OOo/libO for almost 2 years now, and never found the option to change the application background color, this can mean two things:
I. Something is wrong with me. II. Something is wrong with the options dialog. (in my defence, it's way harder to find in german, than in english) I took a deeper look at the options dialog and i must say, it's quite confusing sometimes, but thats an other topic. I think, the whole apperance options would be easier to use if: - The apperance dialog is more prominent. - A view color schemes are included in the default installation. - There is a small live-preview. maybe like this? http://i.imgur.com/LHvxp.png ________________________________ >And while I agree that it's not an art program, it's also fair to make this >comparison considering how many colors are offered in the LibreOffice options >dialogue. We can deal with dropdown menus for changing font colors since most >people use a >limited selection anyway (of course, with a Shore More . . . >along the way), but there must be over a hundred offered in those dropdown >lists. > >-- >Christopher Lee >Executive Director >Champion Debate > > >On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > this is not a Art program. but I see what you mean, palates are grate. I > am working on a new UI right now, and will be uploading my ideas in a few > days... or maybe tomorrow. hope to get some feed back from everyone. > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Christopher Lee > <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>wrote: > > > > I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this. > > > but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand. > > > probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole > > thing. > > Definitely. I don't see dropdown lists as being an ideal means of picking a > > color for a multitude of reasons. 1) There are a lot of colors, and > > scrolling through a long list is tedious. 2) You can only see a small > > selection at any given time, making it harder to compare two colors. 3) It's > > difficult to guess where the colors are, as they're in no real logical order > > for the end user. 4) Lack of customization. 5) It's just not the right > > interface. Art programs use palates for a reason. > > > > -- > > Christopher Lee > > Executive Director > > Champion Debate > > > > > > On Friday, July 15, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > > > > > I was looking at the options that we are talking about after I read this. > > > but I think that the color pickers could be made easier to understand. > > > probably the hole options menu, but I have not read through the hole > > thing. > > > > > > For all the user cares, a simplified image just showing the page, the > > > > general toolbar area, and so on would probably be sufficient > > > > > > > > > I think that this is a good idea we could make different pages for what > > > colors the user is choosing at that time. so when the user is choosing > > the > > > page Header and page Footer it shows them what they will look like. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Christopher Lee > > > <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think it would be that hard to do a preview-- you wouldn't even > > > > need to have it be completely representative. For all the user cares, a > > > > simplified image just showing the page, the general toolbar area, and > > so on > > > > would probably be sufficient-- and it would be no harder to implement > > than > > > > an apply button from a programming perspective (probably simpler, > > > > actually!). I'm not saying Apply is bad, but the dialogue for options > > right > > > > now is kind of huge, especially for tight screens. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Christopher Lee > > > > Executive Director > > > > Champion Debate > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, July 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Andrew Pullins wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like the idea that the colors and them be a "live preview" it > > will > > > > just > > > > > be some time before that is implemented it sounds complicated. but > > till > > > > > then I think that the Apply button will work nicely. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM, RGB ES <[email protected] > > > > > (mailto:[email protected]) (mailto: > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) (mailto: > > > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]))> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > 2011/7/15 Christopher Lee <[email protected] > > > > > > (mailto:[email protected]) (mailto: > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected])) (mailto: > > > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]))>: > > > > > > > Ricardo, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Already possible: Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Appearance → > > > > change > > > > > > > > "Application background" from "Default" to your preferred > > colour. > > > > If > > > > > > > > you need a different colour define a new one under Tool → > > Options → > > > > > > > > LibreOffice → Colors: your new colour will be available when > > you > > > > > > > > change the background. > > > > > > > It may already be possible, it's fairly deep in the menu trees > > for > > > > > > someone trying to do something simple. It's also not equipped with > > a > > > > live > > > > > > preview or any semblance of an attempt at matching color schemes, > > and > > > > the > > > > > > color picker is kind of dated/ugly (choose from a dropdown list? A > > > > color? > > > > > > Out of some forty or fifty sets? Not a good idea!). I think Alex is > > > > just > > > > > > suggesting that 1) We could change the default, which is sensible, > > and > > > > 2) At > > > > > > least make it more apparent. > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole LibO's colour management needs a rewrite, I think that > > > > > > everyone agrees with that. IMHO, without a proper way to select AND > > > > > > define colours, the "already possible" solution is the only > > possible > > > > > > answer... we can talk for hours on end about how > > > > > > difficult/deep/whatever the options are, but I think we need to > > > > > > discuss first of all about the colour palette: only then we will be > > > > > > able to discuss how to use those colours. > > > > > > For a "live preview" I think it is enough (1) to extend the "Apply" > > > > > > button we see on style management since 3.4 to the Option dialogue. > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) In the mathematical sense of the word: I have no idea how > > > > > > difficult it is to add the Apply button there, but I'm sure it is > > > > > > enough to solve the problem, so it is a "Sufficient condition"... > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]) (mailto: > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]))(mailto: > > > > [email protected] > > > > (mailto:[email protected]) (mailto: > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]))) > > > > > > Posting guidelines + more: > > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > > be > > > > > > deleted > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]) (mailto: > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]))(mailto: > > > > [email protected] > > > > (mailto:[email protected]) (mailto: > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]))) > > > > > Posting guidelines + more: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > > be > > > > deleted > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > > > (mailto:[email protected])(mailto: > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected])) > > > > Posting guidelines + more: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > > > deleted > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > > (mailto:[email protected])(mailto: > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected])) > > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]) > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] > (mailto:[email protected]) > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
