On 08/03/2016 01:31 AM, Bryan Richter wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:55:44AM +0200, Robert Martinez (mray) wrote:
>> On 01.08.2016 23:30, Michael Siepmann wrote:
>>> We discussed this in today's meeting.  Here's a revised mockup,
>>> also attached in .ods format. This shows payment processing fees,
>>> two successive months of carry-over, and an example where a pledge
>>> was suspended:
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for clarifying via the mockup. I think it can be simplified
>> in several ways:
>>
>> https://snowdrift.sylphs.net/prototypes/mray/#history_page
>>
>> * a pledge value/month next to a total/month isn't necessary. It
>> only matters what you actually paid that month. So I would only show
>> one sum/month.
> 
> This is different from how all receipts and bills work, which show the
> sum-of-goods subtotal, then any fees and taxes, then a final total. Do
> we want to keep that just so it's more familiar?
> 
>> * items that did not contribute to a months spending can be omitted for
>> clarity.
> 
> Hm. I guess we should ask, is the purpose of this page to show *just*
> payment history? I don't think so. I think it is a history of
> participation within the mechanism. In that case, omitting items that
> don't contribute leads to a *lack* of clarity.
> 
> Also, our hope is that we will be able to sum up a patron's
> contributions to all their projects, so they would only be hit by a
> single payment charge. In that case, it is impossible to get charged
> in April, but have other donations roll forward from April to May.
> Either a patron contributes to *all* their projects in a month, or
> they contribute to none of them.
> 
> So: whether there is one project, or many projects, there is only one
> thing that matters: What do we show for a month where a patron is
> pledged, and contributes, but is not charged?
> 
>> Suspended projects are not treated different as non-pledged and should
>> not show up specially. Notifications can be used to communicate all details.
> 
> I think the same critique applies. If this page is to show a history
> of participation, suspended projects need to show up.
> 
>> * I also like keeping the history tab consistent with the running months
>> matching tab.
> 
> +1.
> 
> FYI, I have created a US to track this story, and have pasted in the
> mockups so far.
> 
> https://tree.taiga.io/project/snowdrift/us/454
> 
> I've named it according to my understanding that we are talking about
> a history of participation rather than just a history of payments, but
> please consider that point "open for discussion" still. :)
> 

Just to note: I agree with everything Bryan posted. The numbers should
be done in a way that's relatively standard. The purpose of the history
page is not just to focus on charges but to emphasize the amount of
support and the history of the matching.

Many projects that accept donations have a leader-board of sorts
honoring the folks who've donated the most to the project. I would like
to see that sort of thing post-MVP. It should especially honor at the
top those patrons who have supported for the longest time and emphasize
their time-length of support as the main item.


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