dtlogin will never provide this option.
But gdm came from (and is most often used in) a
different culture - one of single-user systems.  gdm
is also most often used in environments where
dtlogin is unavailable, so the comparison is
relatively moot.

As long as it is configurable, this is really only
a question of defaults.  Multi-user systems
typically will not want this option.  For
single-user systems I suspect they will typically
want this option.

In the thin client multi-user world this option
will *definitely* be undesirable, which I why I
proposed a way that Sun Ray software can influence
the system defaults in as non-intrusive a way as
possible, without removing the admin's ability to
customize options as desired.

-Bob

Robert Kinsella - Sun Microsystems Ireland - Software Engineer wrote:

>I would not like to see shutdown option in the menu when logged in via
>gdm, and not have the shutdown option when logged in via dtlogin.
>
>Using different login managers, should not affect the items in the
>default menu.
>
>Bob
>
>
>On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 10:07 -0500, Bob Doolittle wrote:
>  
>
>>If the gdm.conf file had an "#include" mechanism, like dtlogin does for
>>Xresources, SRSS could provide their own gdm.conf that turns off the
>>option and then includes the system/user gdm.conf, where the user could
>>override it if so desired.
>>
>>-Bob
>>
>>Joerg Barfurth wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Brian,
>>>
>>>Brian Cameron wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>Is it possible to have it appear in the GDM and logout screens, but 
>>>>>not on the Launch menu?  I'm not convinced we'd want Reboot (or 
>>>>>Shutdown, Sleep, or Suspend) cluttering the Launch menu itself 
>>>>>(although it should probably stay in the menu applet's "Desktop" 
>>>>>menu for those who use that), but I'd agree it's certainly handy to 
>>>>>have all those options in the login screen and the logout dialog, 
>>>>>where permissions allow.
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>Only "Log out <username>..." and "Shut Down..." appear (in that order)
>>>>under "Lock Screen".  Suspend does not appear.
>>>>
>>>>No, there is currently no way to make these options appear in GDM only.
>>>>If you turn them on in GDM, they also appear in the Launch menu.  If
>>>>we feel strongly about this, we could probably work with the panel
>>>>maintainer to submit a patch that would make this more configurable.
>>>>
>>>>If it is okay to just add this to the spec, then that would obviously
>>>>be the easiest choice, and we can turn it on by default.  Then, people
>>>>like the SunRay team can turn off this feature along with the rest
>>>>of the SRSS configuration/installation.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I'm not sure that is the right thing for SRSS to do. Normally SRSS 
>>>install doesn't silently change settings all over the system. And it 
>>>really shouldn't do so if this could clobber existing user settings.
>>>
>>>Additionally it may not be the right thing to do globally. If the 
>>>system has a graphical console the console use may want to retain 
>>>these items. On the other hand there are more ways to set up a 
>>>multi-user system than  SRSS. And there are more twists: In a zone 
>>>sleep and suspend make no sense, shutdonw is farfetched, but reboot 
>>>might make sense.
>>>
>>>Calum's comment has the key phrase: the best option would be to show 
>>>these items only if the user has the necessary permission to do this 
>>>things. (There should still be the option to switch off altogether.)
>>>
>>>-- J??rg
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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  • [desktop-di... Brian Cameron
    • [deskt... Calum Benson
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        • ... Joerg Barfurth
          • ... Brian Nitz
            • ... Joerg Barfurth
            • ... Brian Cameron
          • ... Bob Doolittle
            • ... Robert Kinsella - Sun Microsystems Ireland - Software Engineer
              • ... Bob Doolittle
              • ... Alan Coopersmith
                • ... Shane O'Connor
                • ... Alan Coopersmith
                • ... Shane O'Connor
                • ... Bob Doolittle
                • ... Brian Cameron
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