Sebastian is correct, v180 is originally intended for the development crowd to 
use.  Notice its also rooted, with whatever configurations are set by default.

Francis and Wesley from the TAMs team will communicate the wish list of what 
should be fixed in the next version of the flame base image.   So far, these 
are the requests that i’m hearing:


* include flash.bat for windows users
* emergency rescure tool in MDN not work, either tool issue or Teleweb.ini 
config. URL problem
* remove engineering apps from the default homescreen
* No fonts when we had previous base images which had fonts bundled. 

Please speak up now before the changes are made before the next image.

> 
> How did this happen in the first place and how can we make sure it doesn't 
> happen again? Does QA do a quality sign-off on these images? 
> 

Kevin, yes, QA does do a quality check of each Flame base image out of box.  if 
anyone (Mozilla internal only) is interested, you can find the test plan and 
results here:   http://goo.gl/8iEzwr

Thanks,
Tony



On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Sebastián Enrique Becerra Cancino 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> But Kevin, Flame devices are not intended for end users, actually as a base 
> image should have the engineer apps and then update to 2.0 with non-engineer 
> apps.
> --
> Atte.
> 
> Sebastián Enrique Becerra Cancino
> Facebook: SebaEBC
> Twitter: @SebaEBC
> Tel.: +56 9 9169 0521
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Kevin Grandon <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The main issues I have noticed with the v180 base image are pretty bad. 
> 
> 1 - No fonts when we had previous base images which had fonts bundled. 
> 2 - Engineering apps are installed by default - this is not ideal for end 
> users because a lot of them can not be removed. 
> 
> I think that these are P1 issues, and the v180 image is not ready for 
> release. Can we take the v180 base image down until we have something half 
> way decent to offer users? 
> 
> How did this happen in the first place and how can we make sure it doesn't 
> happen again? Does QA do a quality sign-off on these images? 
> 
> Best, 
> Kevin 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Asa Dotzler" <[email protected]> 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:37:23 PM 
> Subject: [b2g] Please update your Flame to the new base image 
> 
> The Flame reference phone, which many of you all are using for 
> development, testing, and dogfooding, is transitioning from a Gonk that 
> is based on Android 4.2 JellyBean to one based on 4.4 KitKat. 
> 
> Many of you will likely have flashed the v123 base image (Firefox OS 
> 1.3) and then done a "shallow" flash of contemporary Gecko and Gaia on 
> top of that. Having done that, you are probably receiving nightly 
> updates of the Gecko and Gia layers from Mozilla. 
> 
> Those updates are going to stop real soon now because we're moving our 
> development and testing focus to the KitKat-based Gonk and trying to 
> avoid a long and painful overlap period. 
> 
> Unfortunately, we don't have a simple mechanism for updating you to the 
> new builds so you are going to have to repeat those steps of flashing a 
> new base image and then shallow flashing Gecko and Gia to continue to 
> receive nightly updates. 
> 
> The new base image is v180 and the new Gecko and Gaia bits live in 
> directories on FTP appended with -KK. 
> 
> Tony has updated the QA docs and I've updated the Flame page at MDN* to 
> point to the new v180 base image and the new Mozilla FTP directories. 
> 
> We're in a period of transition that becomes more expensive the longer 
> we're in it, so please take a moment today or tomorrow to move to the 
> new image and updates. The last thing we all need is for QA and 
> Engineering to spend more time chasing down phantom bugs that cannot be 
> reproduced on the latest bits. 
> 
> I recognize that this is not an ideal workflow and we are investigating 
> ways to mitigate these kinds of stop and reset requirements. It's a 
> challenge dealing with a system that includes bits Mozilla cannot host 
> and distribute so we appreciate your patience as we go through the first 
> of these transitions, learn from it, and make improvements for next time. 
> 
> - A 
> 
> * 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developer_phone_guide/Flame#Updating_your_Flame%27s_software
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