Most of these testing apps are not even needed for developers besides when we are developing the feature. We should probably do a better job of removing old testing apps, or opting into installing them.
They should not be on the base image though as they are not useful for development in most cases, and generally hamper the dogfooding experience. Also if these are on the base image, then it's likely that we did not bundle with an optimized profile, so performance is probably worse as well. Best, Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sebastián Enrique Becerra Cancino" <[email protected]> To: "Kevin Grandon" <[email protected]> Cc: "Asa Dotzler" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:01:28 AM Subject: Re: [b2g] Please update your Flame to the new base image But Kevin, Flame devices are not intended for end users, actually as a base image should have the engineer apps and then update to 2.0 with non-engineer apps.-- Atte. Sebastián Enrique Becerra Cancino Facebook: SebaEBC Twitter: @SebaEBC Tel.: +56 9 9169 0521 On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Kevin Grandon <[email protected]> wrote: > The main issues I have noticed with the v180 base image are pretty bad. > 1 - No fonts when we had previous base images which had fonts bundled. > 2 - Engineering apps are installed by default - this is not ideal for end > users because a lot of them can not be removed. > I think that these are P1 issues, and the v180 image is not ready for > release. Can we take the v180 base image down until we have something half > way decent to offer users? > How did this happen in the first place and how can we make sure it doesn't > happen again? Does QA do a quality sign-off on these images? > Best, > Kevin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Asa Dotzler" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:37:23 PM > Subject: [b2g] Please update your Flame to the new base image > The Flame reference phone, which many of you all are using for > development, testing, and dogfooding, is transitioning from a Gonk that > is based on Android 4.2 JellyBean to one based on 4.4 KitKat. > Many of you will likely have flashed the v123 base image (Firefox OS > 1.3) and then done a "shallow" flash of contemporary Gecko and Gaia on > top of that. Having done that, you are probably receiving nightly > updates of the Gecko and Gia layers from Mozilla. > Those updates are going to stop real soon now because we're moving our > development and testing focus to the KitKat-based Gonk and trying to > avoid a long and painful overlap period. > Unfortunately, we don't have a simple mechanism for updating you to the > new builds so you are going to have to repeat those steps of flashing a > new base image and then shallow flashing Gecko and Gia to continue to > receive nightly updates. > The new base image is v180 and the new Gecko and Gaia bits live in > directories on FTP appended with -KK. > Tony has updated the QA docs and I've updated the Flame page at MDN* to > point to the new v180 base image and the new Mozilla FTP directories. > We're in a period of transition that becomes more expensive the longer > we're in it, so please take a moment today or tomorrow to move to the > new image and updates. The last thing we all need is for QA and > Engineering to spend more time chasing down phantom bugs that cannot be > reproduced on the latest bits. > I recognize that this is not an ideal workflow and we are investigating > ways to mitigate these kinds of stop and reset requirements. It's a > challenge dealing with a system that includes bits Mozilla cannot host > and distribute so we appreciate your patience as we go through the first > of these transitions, learn from it, and make improvements for next time. > - A > * > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developer_phone_guide/Flame#Updating_your_Flame%27s_software > _______________________________________________ > dev-b2g mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g > _______________________________________________ > dev-b2g mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g _______________________________________________ dev-b2g mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g
