Loop in Wesly Huang (TAM) 

(I’m figuring out how to avoid this confusion.)

On Sep 30, 2014, at 2:24 AM, Tony Chung <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sebastian is correct, v180 is originally intended for the development crowd 
> to use.  Notice its also rooted, with whatever configurations are set by 
> default.
> 
> Francis and Wesley from the TAMs team will communicate the wish list of what 
> should be fixed in the next version of the flame base image.   So far, these 
> are the requests that i’m hearing:
> 
> 
> * include flash.bat for windows users
> * emergency rescure tool in MDN not work, either tool issue or Teleweb.ini 
> config. URL problem
> * remove engineering apps from the default homescreen
> * No fonts when we had previous base images which had fonts bundled. 
> 
> Please speak up now before the changes are made before the next image.
> 
>> 
>> How did this happen in the first place and how can we make sure it doesn't 
>> happen again? Does QA do a quality sign-off on these images? 
>> 
> 
> Kevin, yes, QA does do a quality check of each Flame base image out of box.  
> if anyone (Mozilla internal only) is interested, you can find the test plan 
> and results here:   http://goo.gl/8iEzwr
> 
> Thanks,
> Tony
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 29, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Sebastián Enrique Becerra Cancino 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> But Kevin, Flame devices are not intended for end users, actually as a base 
>> image should have the engineer apps and then update to 2.0 with non-engineer 
>> apps.
>> --
>> Atte.
>> 
>> Sebastián Enrique Becerra Cancino
>> Facebook: SebaEBC
>> Twitter: @SebaEBC
>> Tel.: +56 9 9169 0521
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Kevin Grandon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> The main issues I have noticed with the v180 base image are pretty bad. 
>> 
>> 1 - No fonts when we had previous base images which had fonts bundled. 
>> 2 - Engineering apps are installed by default - this is not ideal for end 
>> users because a lot of them can not be removed. 
>> 
>> I think that these are P1 issues, and the v180 image is not ready for 
>> release. Can we take the v180 base image down until we have something half 
>> way decent to offer users? 
>> 
>> How did this happen in the first place and how can we make sure it doesn't 
>> happen again? Does QA do a quality sign-off on these images? 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Kevin 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Asa Dotzler" <[email protected]> 
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:37:23 PM 
>> Subject: [b2g] Please update your Flame to the new base image 
>> 
>> The Flame reference phone, which many of you all are using for 
>> development, testing, and dogfooding, is transitioning from a Gonk that 
>> is based on Android 4.2 JellyBean to one based on 4.4 KitKat. 
>> 
>> Many of you will likely have flashed the v123 base image (Firefox OS 
>> 1.3) and then done a "shallow" flash of contemporary Gecko and Gaia on 
>> top of that. Having done that, you are probably receiving nightly 
>> updates of the Gecko and Gia layers from Mozilla. 
>> 
>> Those updates are going to stop real soon now because we're moving our 
>> development and testing focus to the KitKat-based Gonk and trying to 
>> avoid a long and painful overlap period. 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, we don't have a simple mechanism for updating you to the 
>> new builds so you are going to have to repeat those steps of flashing a 
>> new base image and then shallow flashing Gecko and Gia to continue to 
>> receive nightly updates. 
>> 
>> The new base image is v180 and the new Gecko and Gaia bits live in 
>> directories on FTP appended with -KK. 
>> 
>> Tony has updated the QA docs and I've updated the Flame page at MDN* to 
>> point to the new v180 base image and the new Mozilla FTP directories. 
>> 
>> We're in a period of transition that becomes more expensive the longer 
>> we're in it, so please take a moment today or tomorrow to move to the 
>> new image and updates. The last thing we all need is for QA and 
>> Engineering to spend more time chasing down phantom bugs that cannot be 
>> reproduced on the latest bits. 
>> 
>> I recognize that this is not an ideal workflow and we are investigating 
>> ways to mitigate these kinds of stop and reset requirements. It's a 
>> challenge dealing with a system that includes bits Mozilla cannot host 
>> and distribute so we appreciate your patience as we go through the first 
>> of these transitions, learn from it, and make improvements for next time. 
>> 
>> - A 
>> 
>> * 
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Developer_phone_guide/Flame#Updating_your_Flame%27s_software
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