I’m not a member of the hawtio community - but they were pretty clear they 
didn’t feel the ASF was the best place to innovate and develop a UI.


On 30 Jan 2014, at 20:54, Hadrian Zbarcea <[email protected]> wrote:

> Rob, not sure what question you answered, but again, what were the reasons to 
> develop hawt.io outside the ASF that you alluded to?
> 
> Hadrian
> 
> 
> On 01/30/2014 03:40 PM, Robert Davies wrote:
>> Red Hat employees thousands of open source developers, who in turn develop 
>> on hundreds of projects. Developers are encouraged to go and explore new 
>> stuff. New projects can form anywhere under loose guidelines (e.g. GitHub, 
>> Eclipse, Apache, JBoss community are fine - its really is up to that 
>> community). Red Hat is a pretty unique company, with a very unique open 
>> culture. They have one rule for their products - they have to be completely 
>> open source. In that environment, it would be surprising if developers 
>> weren’t encouraged to innovate new things.
>> 
>> On 30 Jan 2014, at 18:53, Hadrian Zbarcea <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since you made this claim, can you please explain what the reasons are? 
>>> Hopefully it will clarify the misunderstanding. Personally I find it very 
>>> hard to understand how a company that invests in something would not care 
>>> what the outcome is.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Hadrian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 01/30/2014 03:10 AM, Robert Davies wrote:
>>>> Where hawtio lives, what direction it takes is entirely down to the hawtio 
>>>> community -  my employer - Red Hat really doesn’t care - hawtio isn’t at 
>>>> the ASF for other reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://www.ohloh.net/p/activemq/contributors?query=&sort=commits
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> Rob Davies
>> ————————
>> Red Hat, Inc
>> http://hawt.io - #dontcha
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>> Blog: http://rajdavies.blogspot.com
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>> 
>> 
> 

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