+1 if Martyn already cleared the possibility of taking the plug in.
I'm nIt sure what to do with the history. I would start fresh. On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 3:31 PM Michael André Pearce < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > This is the proposal, for lack of a better one and lack of any console for > artemis currently, and as end users are crying out for this including > myself (I work for a company called IG Group). > > It is to provide skinned version of hawtio (ASL) using the fact you can > provide a branding plugin, I have created this, and is what the screenshots > show and available in my personal branch currently. > > Then to provide/expose neatly the artemis management features, there > already exists in the wild an artemis plugin (currently in a git project > called rh-messaging) to provide a rich feature set. As per my call out it > seem the guys are willing to contribute this into artemis project. > > This is quite clean as if anyone wishes not to use or remove you can > simply comment out in the bootstrap.xml its just some wars, like wise we > just need to worry about maintaining going forwards just the plugins not a > whole FE framework. > > Also if in the future a better viable option is chaired, then this can be > replaced, but for now at least this provides an out the box solution which > as already stated myself and other users are crying out for. > > > As per the minimum things we needed to address which Dan kindly bulleted > for us, to make this acceptable, i believe I have met all the minimum bar > requirements now. > > ============= > > I discussed previously, what would NEED to be done for this to be > “acceptable”: > > 1) All branding/links/etc… in the console need to be re-skinned or > whatever to be “ActiveMQ”. All mentions of hawtio and links off to other > sites other than a possible small “powered by” type thing would need to be > removed. > > 2) All “plugins” and functionality that don’t pertain to things related to > ActiveMQ would need to be removed. > > 3) The “plugin" that presents ActiveMQ related stuff to the user MUST live > here at Apache and part of the ActiveMQ community. We cannot use the one > they provide (unless you can convince them to donate it to Apache). > > ============= > > 1 - Done - See screenshots. (one note as per community feedback is for me > to add a poweredBy logo , i can easily do this) > 2 - Done - See screenshots > 3 - Done - As per mail thread it seems they’re willing to donate this. > > Cheers > Mike > > > > > On 4 Jul 2017, at 18:57, artnaseef <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Please catch me up here - are we saying that the Artemis built-in web > > console will be running HawtIO??? > > > > Art > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 7:15 AM, rajdavies [via ActiveMQ] < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On the “about” page - it would be polite to reference the hawtio > comunity > >> - i.e. “Artemis Management console is powered by hawtio: hawt.io < > >> http://hawt.io/>” etc - as there is no powered by logo. > >> > >>> On 3 Jul 2017, at 23:52, Michael André Pearce <[hidden email] > >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=0>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Ok, > >>> > >>> So i think we can do this. From a local build. > >>> > >>> Please see screenshots. > >>> > >>> https://gist.github.com/michaelandrepearce/ > >> 98b4be98d20f407c2d745a41df9cef03 <https://gist.github.com/ > >> michaelandrepearce/98b4be98d20f407c2d745a41df9cef03> > >>> > >>> For 1) I think we have managed to completely skin it, with all hawtio > >> references removed, even the favicon. > >>> For 2) Only the artemis plugin and base jvm plugins, no extras for any > >> other products. > >>> For 3) Im hoping we can come to agreement on this gets contributed in > >> from the rh-messaging project @clebert @martyn @andy?, if not we can > >> probably code up a simpler version of it for now without bells and > >> whistles, and add in the future features later. > >>> > >>> So if we sort point three, i think we can make this “acceptable” > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> Mike > >>> > >>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 19:17, Daniel Kulp <[hidden email] > >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=1>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Michael André Pearce <[hidden email] > >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=2> <mailto:[hidden > >> email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=3>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I believe we could make a simple activemq branding jar/war with the > >> selected new logo ;) once decided without too much trouble. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd be happy to step up to try do this if no objectors. > >>>> > >>>> I discussed previously, what would NEED to be done for this to be > >> “acceptable”: > >>>> > >>>> 1) All branding/links/etc… in the console need to be re-skinned or > >> whatever to be “ActiveMQ”. All mentions of hawtio and links off to > other > >> sites other than a possible small “powered by” type thing would need to > be > >> removed. > >>>> > >>>> 2) All “plugins” and functionality that don’t pertain to things > related > >> to ActiveMQ would need to be removed. > >>>> > >>>> 3) The “plugin" that presents ActiveMQ related stuff to the user MUST > >> live here at Apache and part of the ActiveMQ community. We cannot use > the > >> one they provide (unless you can convince them to donate it to Apache). > >>>> > >>>> Unless all three happen, it’s a no-go. > >>>> > >>>> Dan > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 16:51, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email] > >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=4>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Speaking the plain truth... The issue is that the hawtio console > that > >>>>>> was used years ago.. looked like a commercial product outside of > >>>>>> apache > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think that if we clear that now.. if it looks an apache look & > >>>>>> feel.. people wouldn't have an issue with it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That would require some cleanup.. move to a newer hawtio plugin > >> maybe? > >>>>>> that's when we thought about trying new routes if we would need to > do > >>>>>> a lot of work anyways. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Michael André Pearce > >>>>>> <[hidden email] > >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=5>> wrote: > >>>>>>> I don't think this is a blocker, for example artemis uses jboss > >> logging, this doesn't have a notice file > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I think we just have to preserve them if present and for asf > >> projects themselves eg artemis itself it's policy to provide one for the > >> asf work. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 01:09, W B D <[hidden email] > >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=6>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I've been using hawtio alongside the classic web console in > >> ActiveMQ 5.x > >>>>>>>> and have been quite happy with it. I find it easier to use for > many > >> common > >>>>>>>> operations as well as for general monitoring, and it is definitely > >> a gap in > >>>>>>>> the current Artemis distribution, so I would certainly welcome > >> built-in > >>>>>>>> hawtio support as a good addition. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Although the source code already contains the standard license > >> assignment > >>>>>>>> to ASF, it does not include a NOTICE file. We could ask Redhat for > >> one, or > >>>>>>>> construct one crediting them with the original work, or add a > >> stanza to the > >>>>>>>> top-level NOTICE file if that is more appropriate. IMO, the > package > >> and > >>>>>>>> class name org.jboss.plugin.PluginContextListener could probably > >> be changed > >>>>>>>> in our copy, both to establish custody and to give a clearer name. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:27 AM, MichaelAndrePearce < > >>>>>>>> [hidden email] > >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=7>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Guys, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It's been some time since this discussion thread without > seemingly > >> any > >>>>>>>>> movement. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Artemis Project is really suffering from having any kind of > >> management > >>>>>>>>> console. With continued questions and calls from users especially > >> as it's > >>>>>>>>> picking up traction and deployment. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> As such could I propose, that as lack of movement on any other > >> solution and > >>>>>>>>> Hawtio is pretty much in a usable state, with a plugin also out > >> there in > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> wild. (It's ASL) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That for the interim on artemis project we build and release with > >> Hawtio > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> an artemis plugin (if RH would donate their plugin to artemis > >> project?) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Any objectors? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://activemq.2283324.n4. > >>>>>>>>> > nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console-tp4717136p4728020.html > >>>>>>>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Clebert Suconic > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Daniel Kulp > >>>> [hidden email] <http:// > /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=8> > >> <mailto:[hidden email] > >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728199&i=9>> - > >> http://dankulp.com/blog <http://dankulp.com/blog> > >>>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com <http > >> ://coders.talend.com/> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > >> below: > >> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console- > >> tp4717136p4728199.html > >> To start a new topic under ActiveMQ - Dev, email > >> [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe from ActiveMQ - Dev, click here > >> < > http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=2368404&code=YXJ0QGFtbGludi5jb218MjM2ODQwNHwyMDc3NjQwODU5 > > > >> . > >> NAML > >> < > http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console-tp4717136p4728203.html > > Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- Clebert Suconic
