On the “about” page - it would be polite to reference the hawtio comunity - 
i.e. “Artemis Management console is powered by hawtio: hawt.io 
<http://hawt.io/>” etc - as there is no powered by logo.

> On 3 Jul 2017, at 23:52, Michael André Pearce <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ok,
> 
> So i think we can do this. From a local build.
> 
> Please see screenshots.
> 
> https://gist.github.com/michaelandrepearce/98b4be98d20f407c2d745a41df9cef03 
> <https://gist.github.com/michaelandrepearce/98b4be98d20f407c2d745a41df9cef03>
> 
> For 1) I think we have managed to completely skin it, with all hawtio 
> references removed, even the favicon.
> For 2) Only the artemis plugin and base jvm plugins, no extras for any other 
> products.
> For 3) Im hoping we can come to agreement on this gets contributed in from 
> the rh-messaging project @clebert @martyn @andy?, if not we can probably code 
> up a simpler version of it for now without bells and whistles, and add in the 
> future features later.
> 
> So if we sort point three, i think we can make this “acceptable”
> 
> Cheers
> Mike
> 
>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 19:17, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Michael André Pearce 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I believe we could make a simple activemq branding jar/war with the 
>>> selected new logo ;) once decided without too much trouble.
>>> 
>>> I'd be happy to step up to try do this if no objectors.
>> 
>> I discussed previously, what would NEED to be done for this to be 
>> “acceptable”:
>> 
>> 1) All branding/links/etc… in the console need to be re-skinned or whatever 
>> to be “ActiveMQ”.  All mentions of hawtio and links off to other sites other 
>> than a possible small “powered by” type thing would need to be removed.  
>> 
>> 2) All “plugins” and functionality that don’t pertain to things related to 
>> ActiveMQ would need to be removed.
>> 
>> 3) The “plugin" that presents ActiveMQ related stuff to the user MUST live 
>> here at Apache and part of the ActiveMQ community.   We cannot use the one 
>> they provide (unless you can convince them to donate it to Apache).
>> 
>> Unless all three happen, it’s a no-go. 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 16:51, Clebert Suconic <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Speaking the plain truth... The issue is that the hawtio console that
>>>> was used years ago.. looked like a commercial product outside of
>>>> apache
>>>> 
>>>> I think that if we clear that now.. if it looks an apache look &
>>>> feel.. people wouldn't have an issue with it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That would require some cleanup.. move to a newer hawtio plugin maybe?
>>>> that's when we thought about trying new routes if we would need to do
>>>> a lot of work anyways.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Michael André Pearce
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I don't think this is a blocker, for example artemis uses jboss logging, 
>>>>> this doesn't have a notice file
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think we just have to preserve them if present and for asf projects 
>>>>> themselves eg artemis itself it's policy to provide one for the asf work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 01:09, W B D <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've been using hawtio alongside the classic web console in ActiveMQ 5.x
>>>>>> and have been quite happy with it. I find it easier to use for many 
>>>>>> common
>>>>>> operations as well as for general monitoring, and it is definitely a gap 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the current Artemis distribution, so I would certainly welcome built-in
>>>>>> hawtio support as a good addition.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Although the source code already contains the standard license assignment
>>>>>> to ASF, it does not include a NOTICE file. We could ask Redhat for one, 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> construct one crediting them with the original work, or add a stanza to 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> top-level NOTICE file if that is more appropriate. IMO, the package and
>>>>>> class name org.jboss.plugin.PluginContextListener could probably be 
>>>>>> changed
>>>>>> in our copy, both to establish custody and to give a clearer name.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:27 AM, MichaelAndrePearce <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's been some time since this discussion thread without seemingly any
>>>>>>> movement.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Artemis Project is really suffering from having any kind of management
>>>>>>> console. With continued questions and calls from users especially as 
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> picking up traction and deployment.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As such could I propose, that as lack of movement on any other solution 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Hawtio is pretty much in a usable state, with a plugin also out there in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> wild. (It's ASL)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That for the interim on artemis project we build and release with Hawtio
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> an artemis plugin (if RH would donate their plugin to artemis project?)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any objectors?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> View this message in context: http://activemq.2283324.n4.
>>>>>>> nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console-tp4717136p4728020.html
>>>>>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Clebert Suconic
>> 
>> -- 
>> Daniel Kulp
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