I just saw this thread; haven't read the entire history, so I apologize for
any misperceptions.
Here are some fundamental requirements for the Web Console that I feel
strongly must be met:
- ActiveMQ must have a built-in web console that requires minimal/no
configuration to enable
- This web console must come out-of-the-box with the broker
- This web console must be easily kept up-to-date with broker changes
- Functionality that must be present (parity with existing console):
- View the list of queues and basic status (number of messages on the
queue, total enqueue count, total dequeue count, consumer count, ...)
- View the list of topics and basic status (number of enqueues and
dequeues, subscriber count, ...)
- View the list of durable topic subscriptions and basic status
(number of messages in the subscription, ...)
- Current connections to the broker
- *and more*
As for any ideas around providing a common web tool to manage ActiveMQ and
Artemis, those are great, but the built-in web console is a must-have. The
amount of use the web console gets, it's immediate out-of-the-box value,
and ease-of-use when assisting others are all very valuable.
Art
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:00 AM, dkulp [via ActiveMQ] <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 29, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Michael André Pearce <[hidden email]
> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728078&i=0>> wrote:
> >
> > I believe we could make a simple activemq branding jar/war with the
> selected new logo ;) once decided without too much trouble.
> >
> > I'd be happy to step up to try do this if no objectors.
>
> I discussed previously, what would NEED to be done for this to be
> “acceptable”:
>
> 1) All branding/links/etc… in the console need to be re-skinned or
> whatever to be “ActiveMQ”. All mentions of hawtio and links off to other
> sites other than a possible small “powered by” type thing would need to be
> removed.
>
> 2) All “plugins” and functionality that don’t pertain to things related to
> ActiveMQ would need to be removed.
>
> 3) The “plugin" that presents ActiveMQ related stuff to the user MUST live
> here at Apache and part of the ActiveMQ community. We cannot use the one
> they provide (unless you can convince them to donate it to Apache).
>
> Unless all three happen, it’s a no-go.
>
> Dan
>
>
> >
> >> On 29 Jun 2017, at 16:51, Clebert Suconic <[hidden email]
> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728078&i=1>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Speaking the plain truth... The issue is that the hawtio console that
> >> was used years ago.. looked like a commercial product outside of
> >> apache
> >>
> >> I think that if we clear that now.. if it looks an apache look &
> >> feel.. people wouldn't have an issue with it.
> >>
> >>
> >> That would require some cleanup.. move to a newer hawtio plugin maybe?
> >> that's when we thought about trying new routes if we would need to do
> >> a lot of work anyways.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Michael André Pearce
> >> <[hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728078&i=2>>
> wrote:
> >>> I don't think this is a blocker, for example artemis uses jboss
> logging, this doesn't have a notice file
> >>>
> >>> I think we just have to preserve them if present and for asf projects
> themselves eg artemis itself it's policy to provide one for the asf work.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On 29 Jun 2017, at 01:09, W B D <[hidden email]
> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728078&i=3>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been using hawtio alongside the classic web console in ActiveMQ
> 5.x
> >>>> and have been quite happy with it. I find it easier to use for many
> common
> >>>> operations as well as for general monitoring, and it is definitely a
> gap in
> >>>> the current Artemis distribution, so I would certainly welcome
> built-in
> >>>> hawtio support as a good addition.
> >>>>
> >>>> Although the source code already contains the standard license
> assignment
> >>>> to ASF, it does not include a NOTICE file. We could ask Redhat for
> one, or
> >>>> construct one crediting them with the original work, or add a stanza
> to the
> >>>> top-level NOTICE file if that is more appropriate. IMO, the package
> and
> >>>> class name org.jboss.plugin.PluginContextListener could probably be
> changed
> >>>> in our copy, both to establish custody and to give a clearer name.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:27 AM, MichaelAndrePearce <
> >>>> [hidden email]
> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4728078&i=4>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's been some time since this discussion thread without seemingly
> any
> >>>>> movement.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Artemis Project is really suffering from having any kind of
> management
> >>>>> console. With continued questions and calls from users especially as
> it's
> >>>>> picking up traction and deployment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As such could I propose, that as lack of movement on any other
> solution and
> >>>>> Hawtio is pretty much in a usable state, with a plugin also out
> there in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> wild. (It's ASL)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That for the interim on artemis project we build and release with
> Hawtio
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> an artemis plugin (if RH would donate their plugin to artemis
> project?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any objectors?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
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> >>>>> nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console-tp4717136p4728020.html
> >>>>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Clebert Suconic
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
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