I will wait others to chime in, but Michael have done a very nice job
here.. I think this is pretty much ready to be merged...

I will wait the release that I'm doing this week (should be done
already.. fixing a few last issues as usual)... but other than that..
I think this has addressed all the issues raised by Dan on the Pull
Request.. as Michael.



On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Michael André Pearce
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to start a fresh discussion to keep things cleaner, and to 
> provide more of a notification/update. (also to better name the subject)
>
> The requirement for such a tool comes from many end users (including myself) 
> which keep requesting such a feature of a web management console (a small 
> selection of a much larger list i can supply many more), and so becomes more 
> and more pressing to resolve.
>
> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/How-to-monitor-artemis-td4727071.html 
> <http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/How-to-monitor-artemis-td4727071.html>
> https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/39052/administration-console-for-artemis-jms-broker
>  
> <https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/39052/administration-console-for-artemis-jms-broker>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37162532/how-to-monitor-apache-artemis 
> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37162532/how-to-monitor-apache-artemis>
>
>
> Based off the discussion here:
>
> http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console-td4717136i40.html#a4728199
>  
> <http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/DISCUSS-Removing-the-Web-Console-td4717136i40.html#a4728199>
>
> We have some key requirements as noted were (not exhaustive but a small 
> summary of noted in the above thread):
>
> Must be ActiveMQ Branded
> No third party / propriety other products should be mentioned apart from a 
> powered by.
> Help and about pages should be ActiveMQ Artemis focussed
> Provide functionality to manage the broker
> This should be able to expand over time
> License/Notice files and any legal requirements are updated/met
> The war size should be kept to a minimum
> Login/Security should be integrated to the broker roles/users
> Plugins/customisation specific to AcitveMQ Artemis to reside in ActiveMQ 
> Artemis project.
>
> Also we had some good early feedback in the community on the missing bits in 
> our early PR, of bits that needed/must be addressed. (thanks to Dan, Clebert, 
> Martyn).
>
> We believe we have a viable “agreeable" solution to provide a web console 
> admin for Apache ActiveMQ Artemis.
>
> As such we don’t see any reason to hold off and would like to bring your 
> attention (again) to the PR please make any standard review comments there.
>
> https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/1385 
> <https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/pull/1385>
>
> Also there has been a small discussion on how to release this, so that we can 
> start to get end user feedback, as users tend to want a built usable 
> distribution, like wise there is concern of bundling this into the next 
> release.
>
> We propose:
> We will release the upcoming next version of Apache ActiveMQ Artemis, WITHOUT 
> the new web console. This is due to occur in the coming week.
> We will then subsequently look to merge and release another version of Apache 
> ActiveMQ Artemis WITH the console, so it is in a clean release with only the 
> addition of the web console. This should occur almost immediately after.
>
> I should thank Clebert and Martyn in offering to run the extra release this 
> would require, but de-risk some community concerns.
>
> This solution is based off a hawtio framework, i would like to iterate i am 
> not a RedHat employee, nor anything to do with Hawtio project. I work for a 
> company that uses the project like other end users, and simply see it as a 
> framework to enable us in activemq to deliver a usable web management console 
> for artemis with as little cost, effort and maintenance as possible, to 
> provide an immediate need in the user community.
>
> Many thanks
> Mike



-- 
Clebert Suconic

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