On Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 22:21 Karolina Rosół <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi guys, > > TL;DR; Non-technical people would love to build this community as > well. We just don't know how ;-) > Thanks for thone comments! 1. It is amazing that there's an info on the Apache website about the > devlist. However, I totally don't know how to use it except for > knowing how to join. For someone not familiar with it it's hard to > even start his/her discussion because I believe (please correct me if > I'm wrong) there are no rules on how to e.g. create a subject in the > form of a [DISCUSSION] / [AIP-XY] etc. > indeed. This is something that we can describe :) I will add it to our 'Communications' PR. > 2. There's no info about what is devlist / Slack better for but I've > seen the latest PR https://github.com/apache/airflow/pull/7204 about > it, so I won't talk too much now. > Yep. I think we need it. > > 3. I'd be happy to know what I myself, as a non-technical person, can > do to make this community better. We have an info about documentation > and the need of enhancing it on the website but if I were a student > and would like to know more about the nature of OSS projects and even > things like how to use JIRA / Github in such project, it would help. > Let's say someone would like to gain experience to become a Project > Manager in the future and build great teams based on Apache good > practices even though open > source projects have no actual structures. > I think we might have a good help from someone who would like to take on the tasks that developers are not really good at. I think we - developers are good in stuff that came be automated, but we are not that good in organizing things where people's emotions arere important, I think what would be great might be to help people to organize the work around development. I think there are various good practices that mu by t be introducedy by you and other Pms I worked with - for example retros, demos, planning etc. - all that might be useful in the various groups we are developing various functionalities we add for Airflow. There are meetings announced in the devlist for various areas and they are open to everyone to join. Maybe you could come to one of those meetings, observe it and help us figure out how to do I better ? I think that might a good start!I'd love if you come to one of our future meetings and tell us what we can improve ! I am sure we can learn a lot from you. > > 4. Meetups / Apache Local Community - I think it's something > non-technical people can do. In fact, I was happy to make the 1st > Warsaw Apache Airflow meetup happen and cooperate with Aizhamal, > Jarek, Tomek and Kamil to think of and make the best experience for > people who wanted to know more about Apache Airflow project in > general. I'm not sure if I would be honoured to take part in such an > experience without the people I mentioned. I simply didn't know that > as a Project Manager of cloud / big data project in a usual company I > can still have small impact on building a better and more mature > community. It's only because I did receive tons of mentorship, > constant encouragement from my colleagues. Without them I wouldn't > even know that it's possible to contribute as a non-programmer. > yeah. Mentoring is important on many levels. we should do more of it ! > > 5. I was amazed by the results of the survey that Tomek has recently > made. I started to look around for more general info about welcoming > open source communities and what makes people join such communities. I > bumped into a great study made by Digital Ocean which you can find > under the following link: > > https://www.digitalocean.com/currents/december-2019/#anchor-the-community-of-open-source > It describes things like inclusivity, men vs. women perception of open > source projects / welcoming and friendly communities / rules etc. It's > long but worth reading :-) > cool - I think we will do quite so e diversity discussion during our upcoming Airflow Summit - we have some plans about it ! > > Side story: I once took part in a mentorship program for young Project > Managers wannabes and after spending 3 months with a brave and bright > young lady I didn't think of open source community as a fresh start > for her to gain experience. I'm glad that now I know that it's > possible. > Certainly! I think we have plenty I possibilities, we are now planning to participate in Google Summer Of Code and in Outreachy diversity Programme - we can include you in it. Maybe you can help tthere ? Karolina Rosół > Polidea | Project Manager > > M: +48 606 630 236 > E: [email protected] > > Check out our projects! > > >
