Good idea :) - we have enough of formalising things recently ...
On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 9:32 PM Daniel Standish via dev < [email protected]> wrote: > I would suggest maybe we don't need to formalize criteria. > > Actually, let me suggest... let's just agree on a sort of mission statement > for the award. > > E.g. "to recognize meaningful contributions by new contributors" or > something. > > Then people can apply that however it makes sense to them. > > And if we find that that isn't good enough, we can revisit. > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 11:54 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Just to be clear (because that might be not clear). > > > > LAZY CONSENSUS is generally broken when someone raises "I think it should > > be different". So the lazy consensus was broken when doubts were raised > by > > Amogh, Jens and Wei. > > Based on that, I think you should start a new discussion - summarising > the > > learnings and likely trying to get to "actual" consensus iin the course > of > > that discussion (if not possible - that should end with the vote. or > > dropping the idea if we can't converge to a good consensus. > > > > J. > > > > On Sat, Dec 13, 2025 at 8:48 PM Srabasti Banerjee < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for your inputs Wei! For your latest response below, my concern > is > > > mandating the criteria to be at least 10 or 5 or 20 PRs to qualify to > get > > > nominated for Rookie PR, is too high a bar for new contributors. Folks > > will > > > try to focus more on the number of PRs in a month, just to qualify, > which > > > might lead to low quality PR submissions. > > > For a contributor who picks up a challenging PR, and provides a long > term > > > good quality solution with strategic design, it will be unfair. After > > all, > > > it takes time to make soup from raw ingredients when cooking:) > > > > > > Quality over quantity is preferred by the community I think, so we > have a > > > stable product. Please chime in all 👈. > > > Every new contributor has their own personal choice. They will stay as > > long > > > as they get support and recognition from the Airflow community. > > > > > > *Let's finalize the criteria for Rookie PR and get the ball rolling, > > since > > > the lazy consensus time has passed already! More awards are yet to > start > > > after this thread is locked in:)* > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > Srabasti Banerjee > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 1:15 AM Wei Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The 10 I meant was the minimum required to qualify. The main reason > is > > > > wanting to keep the newcomer for a bit longer. If this is too > strict, 5 > > > > might also be a good choice. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Wei > > > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2025, at 2:37 PM, Srabasti Banerjee < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes the award should be one time award per person for the same > Rookie > > > > > award. Else, the same person can win multiple times - that defeats > > the > > > > > criteria of recognizing new contributors, right? > > > > > They can win again in another award like Top PR of the Month, no > > issues > > > > on > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > As per original thread, based on consensus from those who voted, > and > > > the > > > > > November PR thread, below were the numbers from first responses. > > Hence > > > > > chose the majority number 10. > > > > > 10 PRs - Wei, Jen > > > > > 20 PRs - Pierre > > > > > > > > > > At the minimum, 1 PR submission is needed to qualify, hence put it > > here > > > > > above, for clarity sake. > > > > > New contributors would not be in the Top 100 for sure, from so far > > > > whatever > > > > > I have observed so far. We can manually check if needed before > voting > > > and > > > > > deciding results as well, if an exception happens in the future. We > > can > > > > > check via script as well for this. However, I initiated this thread > > to > > > > > finalise the criteria and not the implementation here. > > > > > > > > > > Sure - let us discuss more! The more inputs we have from everyone, > > the > > > > > better it is, since this is FOR the community AND BY the community > :) > > > > > Let us hear other opinions that come in on this thread, before > > > finalizing > > > > > on the criteria for Rookie PRs before Friday! > > > > > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > Srabasti Banerjee > > > > > > > > > > *Kindly note : We recognised the need for different awards to > > recognise > > > > > other contributors using different criterias in the future, as was > > > > > discussed in the discussion thread mentioned above. This thread is > > only > > > > for > > > > > the Rookie PRs.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 9:49 PM Wei Lee <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I don’t think the consensus was “at least 1 PR (>=1) and less than > > 10 > > > > PRs > > > > >> (<10).” My understanding was more like over 10, but it doesn't > > appear > > > in > > > > >> https://github.com/apache/airflow/graphs/contributors. (This > might > > > not > > > > >> even be the consensus yet.) Our consensus was to proceed, but the > > > > details > > > > >> may require further discussion. > > > > >> > > > > >> Best, > > > > >> Wei > > > > >> > > > > >>> On Dec 9, 2025, at 1:35 PM, Amogh Desai <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Just checking something I am not to clear on - is it a one time > > award > > > > per > > > > >>> person? > > > > >>> (Keeping the criteria in mind) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks & Regards, > > > > >>> Amogh Desai > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2025 at 10:08 AM Srabasti Banerjee < > > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> Hello All, > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Following the discussion thread below, calling for a lazy > > consensus > > > on > > > > >>>> criteria to determine Rookie PR of each month: > > > > >>>> Discussion: > > > > >>>> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/rz28lgots24pq54x67stdyyrq6848ptm > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Rookie PR of the Month will run for new first time contributors > > with > > > > at > > > > >>>> least 1 PR (>=1) and less than 10 PRs (<10) successfully merged > in > > > the > > > > >> same > > > > >>>> month. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> The lazy consensus will end Friday, 12th of December, 6 pm PST. > > > > >>>> No need to answer unless you do not agree with the consensus. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > > >>>> Srabasti Banerjee > > > > >>>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
